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$0.50 45Man Turbo - KQo 14bbs 3bet shove

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adasko99
Joined: 13.02.2011

PokerStars - 200/400 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 5,638
UTG: 2,149
MP: 8,818
CO: 7,368
Hero (BTN): 5,562
SB: 458

6 players post ante of 25, SB posts SB 200, BB posts BB 400

Pre Flop: (pot: 750) Hero has K♣ Q♦

fold, MP raises to 800, fold, Hero raises to 5,537 and is all-in


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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

well if I assume rhat this is not the ft than shoving pre gets plus ev if villain is folding enough to 3bets. Without reads I tend to fold this one especially on theae stakes where moat villains dont raise enough pre to make this profitable.

greets

maniac


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

It seems like the last 2 tables and without any info of the villain I would 3bet shove as well. I expecthe will fold a decent amount of the time and he risk a decent amount of his stack with a call.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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adasko99
Joined: 13.02.2011

yeah last 2 tables i think.

maniac what would your pushing range look like roughly? thanks :)


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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

well I would push tighter. 66+ ATs+KJs+ if he raises about 18% to 20%. If you are sure that he raises nash or more you can go looser. Per default I dont expect villains to open this much but this is population tendency that you have to come up yourself. Here are the results for 2 tables 12 people and 45-man structure. HRC

greets

maniac


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adasko99
Joined: 13.02.2011

thanks :f_thumbsup:


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PokerGenesis
Joined: 03.06.2015

Nice analyze.

I would played small 3bet, it depends on villain trends.


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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

Originally posted by PokerGenesis
Nice analyze.

I would played small 3bet, it depends on villain trends.

well you cant with this stack distribution. I would not recommend it. A small raise committs you to the pot. Its either shove or fold.

greets

maniac


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

This is spot where shoving range should be somewhat tighter as SB is always calling unless sitting out which will decrease our EV. It might not really affect open raiser range that SB is so short. So depends on player profile.


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PokerGenesis
Joined: 03.06.2015
bpilcher
Joined: 25.09.2015

Anything wrong with calling pf here? I think that's what I'd normally do against a min raise and then probably fold to a squeeze. SB 3betting would be my biggest worry with this strategy but not for this hand because SBs stack <2BB


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Should not have calling range this shallow. It's just too expensive to call.


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