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(NL16) KK pre 3-way standard spot

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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100 BB
Hero (BTN): 159.69 BB
SB: 163.56 BB
BB: 101.5 BB
UTG: 104.44 BB
MP: 143.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♥ K♦

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, BB raises to 24 BB, Hero calls 21.5 BB, SB calls 14 BB

Flop: (72 BB, 3 players) 3♠ 4♥ 8♦
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 77.5 BB, fold, BB calls 77.5 BB and is all-in

Turn: (227 BB, 2 players) 8♥

River: (227 BB, 2 players) A♦
Players agreed to run it twice.

Turn #2: (227 BB, 2 players) 6♣

River #2: (227 BB, 2 players) T♣

123 hands cold 4-bettor 20 / 16(tag player)
300 hands 3-bettor 26 / 19 / 10 (lag player on tight side)

And I got exactly KK. Didn't know pre so just chose the wrong decision I think, flop with 1 psb left I jammed. I feel I misplayed but I do know it is close.


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mafioso03
Joined: 16.08.2010

I would jam pre flop.
As played, i would do the same on the flop


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Jam pre for me and you cant get away from that flop imo.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Your line doesn't make any sense at all.


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onetimebigtime
Joined: 06.05.2020

K♥:K♦: The Brave Cowboys are ready with their loaded guns.

Poker is so easy peasy when you have the 2nd nuts pre-flop and your making it intricate :sifflote:

The goal is to have less opponent on the flop and by calling you are giving good odds for the small blind to come in. If you have Bullets I agree with the call line but Cowboys you have to lessen the field.

@advanced I'm going to be blunt. Your play is so inconsistent.

I saw you jammed AQ post flop with nothing on the flop. You are on the opposite side of the correct play. When you need to just call you shove. When you need to reshove you just call. When you need to call you fold.

Are you playing too many tables at the same time. I worry you might burning money with your plays. Play one table first and concentrate on the game don't just click buttons according to your gut feel. Your gut feel will depends if you are on tilt, relax, gambling mode, scared, etc.

This is just my personal opinion and I can be wrong 100%.

As always Break a Leg _drink:


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

The problem with this line is that many flops are action killers for AK/AQ vs KK where you don't get their stacks.

In blind battles where people have proclivity to overplay their Ax, you really wanna get the money in preflop with KK here.


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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

@advanced I'm going to be blunt. Your play is so inconsistent.

I saw you jammed AQ post flop with nothing on the flop. You are on the opposite side of the correct play. When you need to just call you shove. When you need to reshove you just call. When you need to call you fold.

Have I told or said that my goal is to play correctly? Question 2 is what was the exact situation, cause that matters probably.


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

I often flat 4bets with Aces to trap but never with Kings.

Kings are vulnerable as the majority of players' 4bet ranges (both value and bluff) consist of Ax or QQ/JJ. if the board comes Ace high you either lose or miss value from QQ/JJ that would have stacked off. KK is always a shove preflop for me.


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onetimebigtime
Joined: 06.05.2020

Have I told or said that my goal is to play correctly? Question 2 is what was the exact situation, cause that matters probably.

Baffled, never mind as always Break a Leg _drink:


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advancedTN1984
Joined: 29.10.2012

I was not sure by the cold 4-bet though, it's a rare occasion!


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onetimebigtime
Joined: 06.05.2020

Originally posted by advancedTN1984
I was not sure by the cold 4-bet though, it's a rare occasion!

Yes, 4-bet is unusual but you will only lose to one hand. He can do that with QQ AK and KK. Don't get intimidated by a 4-bet if you have the Cowboys.


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