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[Closed] TT as low pair - did I play well?

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art3mus
Joined: 09.10.2008

Did I play well?

Known players:
[tg]Position:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB:104/34/8/1,6/28/9/100/55;BB:107/52/17/2,7/18/5/33/50;MP2:88/81/26/1,2/31/13/0/52;[/tg]
0,25/0,5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T♠, T♦
MP2 calls, Hero raises, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (8,00 SB) Q♠, J♥, 8♠ (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Calling flop with low pair and gutshot in 9:1 pot.

Turn: (5,00 BB) A♥ (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls.

Semibluffing on scary card.

River: (7,00 BB) Q♥ (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Checking behind: third hearts card, 3 overcards on the board.

Final Pot: 7,00 BB


3 replies

Hi art3mus,

I think you can even fold the flop. The chance of still being ahead is very low. Therefore you need to draw. Let's take a look at your outs.
You hold a gutshot but as the flop is 2-suited and you hold only 1 card if you make the straigh (means that you are often splitting or even losing to a better straight) I would discount your outs to 3 for the gutshot.
You have 2 outs for a set but as a T would give any 9 a straight I would discount it to 0,5-1 outs.
Then you have a backdoorflushdraw but as there are 3 higher :spade:s I would give you any outs for it here.
So you have 3,5-4 discounted outs but you get only 9:1 potodds. With 4 outs you need 11:1 potodds so you can't call here.
To call you need to give yourself more than 2 SB implied odds but as the chance of splitting or losing the pot even if you improve is quite high I wouldn't count the in here.

As played I like a check behind on the turn more. He can easily check a Q or J here as he is scared by the A and which has you beat. A flushdraw will often bet again as the A can scare you off a better hand very well.
So take the freecard and fold the river unimproved. :)
Improved you either call a bet if you get the K :spade:, any 9 or T. You raise with any non :spade: K and you bet/call yourself if he checks to any K or 9.


art3mus Topic starter
art3mus
Joined: 09.10.2008

Hi ciRith,

I really appreciate such detailed answer.

Originally posted by ciRith
Improved you either call a bet if you get the K :spade:, any 9 or T. You raise with any non :spade: K and you bet/call yourself if he checks to any K or 9.

What about K♥? I understand that one of the reasons he bet flop can be :spade: flashdraw. Howewer the reason he called turn can be :heart: flushdraw. There is slightly more chances he has two :heart: cards than two :spade: cards because I have one :spade: card in my pocket.


3 of your opponents could have hold a :spade: flushdraw. As two folded they probably didn't have one. They probably folded 2 :heart:s as well as they haven't had a flushdraw with it at that time.
At the same time the one opponent who bet won't have 2 :heart:s very often if at all so the 3rd :heart: does look scary but it isn't. :)
Therefore the K :heart: is not much worse than the other non :spade: Ks.


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