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Correct fold or equity spew?

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NL Holdem 0.02(BB)
BTN ($3.16) [VPIP: 16.3% | PFR: 11.6% | AGG: 21.4% | Flop Agg: 25% | Turn Agg: 15.8% | 3-Bet: 1.8% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 9.8% | Hands: 172]
SB ($4.21) [VPIP: 22.5% | PFR: 9.4% | AGG: 25% | Hands: 145]
BB ($2.72) [VPIP: 39.6% | PFR: 30.2% | AGG: 32% | Flop Agg: 38.5% | Turn Agg: 0% | 3-Bet: 19% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 18.2% | Hands: 53]
HERO ($2) [VPIP: 21.5% | PFR: 17.4% | AGG: 29.2% | Flop Agg: 31.8% | Turn Agg: 28.7% | 3-Bet: 6.1% | 4-Bet: 8.1% | Hands: 24540]
CO ($2.39) [VPIP: 38.2% | PFR: 5.1% | AGG: 33.7% | Flop Agg: 37% | Turn Agg: 38.5% | 3-Bet: 0% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 41.2% | Hands: 140]

Dealt to Hero: A♣ J♦

HERO Raises To $0.08, CO Calls $0.08, BTN Calls $0.08, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.06

Hero SPR on Flop: [5.82 effective]
Flop ($0.33): 9♥ 4♣ J♠
BB Checks, HERO Checks, CO Checks, BTN Bets $0.16 (Rem. Stack: $2.92), BB Folds, HERO Calls $0.16 (Rem. Stack: $1.76), CO Folds

Turn ($0.65): 9♥ 4♣ J♠ J♣
HERO Checks, BTN Bets $0.49 (Rem. Stack: $2.43), HERO Folds

Spoiler

BTN wins: $0.63


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Alek891
Joined: 11.07.2015

:f_o::f_o:
Incorrect fold.
Your hand is v. strong you can stack off.


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arthurbentley
Joined: 12.10.2010

The fancy play syndrome on the flop by checking presumably to induce a bluff, or playing scared, gave the initiative to the villain, who most likely bluffed repping not a full house but trip Jacks. 100% a call. He may have filled up, but because you showed weakness the odds are he bluffed you off the pot.

Don't get cute when you hit tptk on the flop. Bet and if you get re-raised then decide whether to call, raise or fold. Depending on the player type making the 3/bet.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

hero is clearly scared to death. :f_biggrin: easy bet on the flop with a few weaker players in the pot.

the tight btn is the only player against which we have to be careful with giving action, and unfortunately he happens to be the only guy to continue in this case. however, top trips is a bit too strong to fold, villain can still be valuebetting worse trips (as well as bluffing at a low frequency) - his preflop calling range isn't pocket pairs only, especially on btn and being multiway.


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Thanks guys, and also thanks for the :f_biggrin: icons, looks like I definitely deserved them


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nutural
Joined: 21.09.2011

if we have been on the wrong part of a setup here, so be it. :f_thumbsup:

but there is a good chance that he is value betting a QQ/KK for example and the second Jack gave him even more assurance (along with our non cbetting or check-raising) that his equity is really high and wants to get value and/or charge for draws.

If the turn card was a K or Q for example there is some merit into reluctantly folding, but with the Jack we need to be able to stack off here. :f_biggrin:


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"if we have been on the wrong part of a setup here, so be it. :f_thumbsup:

This is something I really need to come in peace with. Problem being I can almost never differenciate between a cooler setup and a bad play.
How do you differenciate that in general?


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nutural
Joined: 21.09.2011

at least for me it's a "salami" approach. (just saying it because it usually sticks :f_p: )

When* i see the hand (* not on the heat of the moment) :

Slice 01 : Is it one of my typical blunders ?
Slice 02 : Would he do that with a lot of hands but i just happened to hit the top of his range?
and play with Equilab on this.
Slice 03 : now that you know, do you feel comfortable doing it again?

example : I called down a big big pot but did it against a villain who I had seen doing this 3 times with pure trash. I managed to call when he had AA.
Slice 01 : No
Slice 02 : Oh Yes
Slice 03 : Hell yes against HIM!

When you get better the Slices get more and more sophisticated.
Hope it helped - Huge Work in Progress though.


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