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KJs - enough implieds?

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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

I am raising to 4BB because there is an extra blind in the pot.
I wonder if I can call the raise OTF hoping to hit the flush. Pot odds are 31%. I need 19.2% disregarding the over card.
I need to win 41.9BB on average on later streets if I hit to be break even.
It could be hard to realise this OOP. So I would say a fold is ok here. WDYT?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 139.5 BB
BB: 103 BB
Hero (UTG): 103 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 75.5 BB
BTN: 124.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, MP posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has K♣ J♣

Hero raises to 4 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 4 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (13.5 BB, 3 players) 6♣ 3♣ Q♥
Hero bets 6 BB, MP raises to 27 BB, fold, fold,


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Multi-way raises are mostly nutted hands. At best we're vs 2pair, at worst we're drawing to a dominated FD or vs a set.
Just fold, keep it simple.


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sebbi51
Joined: 16.01.2008

what about a x/c on the flop? If MP bets and BTS calls you should have the right odds to draw...Always tough to lead into a multiway pot OOP.


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sanctus123
Joined: 19.06.2012

I agree with DecMate. Also if You are drawing, remember to drawing to the nuts!


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by sebbi51
what about a x/c on the flop? If MP bets and BTS calls you should have the right odds to draw...Always tough to lead into a multiway pot OOP.

I think that is reasonable, too. But I like betting more. I could take down the pot right away. I get money in in case I hit. It balances the strong hands nicely.
Not sure about the size. Maybe <50% is a bit small?


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

40-50% is fine.
You can play this as a check or a bet. Both have merits.
Check we keep players in the pot, our hand isn't particularly vulnerable once we hit and we don't mind having more players in there.
Betting we build a pot which we don't mind as we have the 2nd nut FD. Also we do have fold equity and would happily take it down with K high.


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