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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Do you agree with not cbetting in a 4-way pot? My equity is not good and I don't think I have much fold equity.

What do you do here on the turn? TPTK+2nd nut FD.

I think a raise is not good, because my draw is not strong enough. I'd rather raise if I hold 2 of the ♠️ and the A♠️.

If I call and villain bets large, I have a hard decision unimproved. It is an uncomfortable spot.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 100 BB
CO: 106 BB
BTN: 386.5 BB
SB: 249 BB
BB: 91 BB
UTG: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♠ A♥

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (12 BB, 4 players) 6♠ 4♠ T♠
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (12 BB, 4 players) K♣
SB bets 11.5 BB, BB calls 11.5 BB, Hero ???


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Incog
Joined: 18.08.2006

U are getting very good odds to call for ur K high flush draw. If BTN Raises here u need to be quick with ur calculations :-P
Ur TPTK is very likely beat, and I wouldn't call with it OOR.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Tricky spot on the turn, but the impied odds aren't to bad if you hit the flush on river.
Only thing is that most :spade: cards will be a action killer and sometimes you will lose against the nuts if you hit your draw.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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marcvz
Joined: 03.04.2012

I almost never Cbet multiway except when you hit TP+ and want random stuff and draws to fold.
So I'd play the same way and call turn and river if there is no reraise before you.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

I think I would still cbet on flop mostly to fold out opponents because this is a scary looking flop texture that we actually have equity in and may be even the nut flush draw if the Ace of Spades still resides in the deck.

As played, call turn and see river.


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marcvz
Joined: 03.04.2012

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
I think I would still cbet on flop mostly to fold out opponents because this is a scary looking flop texture that we actually have equity in and may be even the nut flush draw if the Ace of Spades still resides in the deck.

As played, call turn and see river.

Nah, flop is horrible for MP's range and good for callers ranges in a multiway pot.
No flushed fold, medium-high flush draws won't fold. Straight draws should, but don't fold on nl2. And even overpairs or holdings like AT, KT will call here on nl2.
I play a lot of micros.. 50% of players use a interface without fold button.

Anyway, long story short. You will get called almost always and have no idea where you're at.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by marcvz

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
I think I would still cbet on flop mostly to fold out opponents because this is a scary looking flop texture that we actually have equity in and may be even the nut flush draw if the Ace of Spades still resides in the deck.

As played, call turn and see river.

Nah, flop is horrible for MP's range and good for callers ranges in a multiway pot.
No flushed fold, medium-high flush draws won't fold. Straight draws should, but don't fold on nl2. And even overpairs or holdings like AT, KT will call here on nl2.
I play a lot of micros.. 50% of players use a interface without fold button.

Anyway, long story short. You will get called almost always and have no idea where you're at.

Yeah, may be, this does look like a cluster fudge. Rare to see this type of action on tables.


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SamoB25
Joined: 02.10.2009

If you hit the flush on the river, you would need to get additional cca 12bb from your opponents into the pot to make the turn call profitable. Seeing how the their actions unfolded on previous streets I would call the turn bet and believe that they would call such river bet.


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