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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Villain: 29/18 (429 hands), stack size broken.

This is almost a classic. Can't really continue here, can I? Not in a 3bet pot, right?
In SRP with a better stack to pot ratio, it would be different, I guess?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 121 BB
SB: 185 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 46 BB
Hero (MP): 105 BB
CO: 95.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♠ A♣

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 8♦ 5♣ T♥
UTG bets 12.5 BB, fold,


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call and see the turn you have position with 2 overs and some back door equity villain is likely checking turns quite a bit unless they have say slow played AA or sets so we can realise some equity vs those checks and fold turn vs a bet unimproved.


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Pokrovec
Joined: 07.01.2010

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
call and see the turn you have position with 2 overs and some back door equity villain is likely checking turns quite a bit unless they have say slow played AA or sets so we can realise some equity vs those checks and fold turn vs a bet unimproved.

I would like to see some math behind this approach as I am strugling with the same hand over and over again
If I understand your suggestion, you want to call the flop and then on turn when villain check bet it to steal the pot even unimproved.
Is that correct?


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by Pokrovec

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
call and see the turn you have position with 2 overs and some back door equity villain is likely checking turns quite a bit unless they have say slow played AA or sets so we can realise some equity vs those checks and fold turn vs a bet unimproved.

I would like to see some math behind this approach as I am strugling with the same hand over and over again
If I understand your suggestion, you want to call the flop and then on turn when villain check bet it to steal the pot even unimproved.
Is that correct?

I didn't understand it like this. I think we call on the flop and check behind turn.


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Pokrovec
Joined: 07.01.2010

Originally posted by monteCarlol

Originally posted by Pokrovec

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
call and see the turn you have position with 2 overs and some back door equity villain is likely checking turns quite a bit unless they have say slow played AA or sets so we can realise some equity vs those checks and fold turn vs a bet unimproved.

I would like to see some math behind this approach as I am strugling with the same hand over and over again
If I understand your suggestion, you want to call the flop and then on turn when villain check bet it to steal the pot even unimproved.
Is that correct?

I didn't understand it like this. I think we call on the flop and check behind turn.

Hmm, I dont like that as most of the time you will not improve, that means if villain will than bet the river what will be your action?
For me I would call the flop, on Turn I would fold to bet, or bet to check and on river check behind if not improved...


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by Pokrovec

Originally posted by monteCarlol

Originally posted by Pokrovec

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
call and see the turn you have position with 2 overs and some back door equity villain is likely checking turns quite a bit unless they have say slow played AA or sets so we can realise some equity vs those checks and fold turn vs a bet unimproved.

I would like to see some math behind this approach as I am strugling with the same hand over and over again
If I understand your suggestion, you want to call the flop and then on turn when villain check bet it to steal the pot even unimproved.
Is that correct?

I didn't understand it like this. I think we call on the flop and check behind turn.

Hmm, I dont like that as most of the time you will not improve, that means if villain will than bet the river what will be your action?
For me I would call the flop, on Turn I would fold to bet, or bet to check and on river check behind if not improved...

Same here, not happy with any of the available options, really. That is why I folded on the flop.


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Originally posted by monteCarlol

Originally posted by Pokrovec

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
call and see the turn you have position with 2 overs and some back door equity villain is likely checking turns quite a bit unless they have say slow played AA or sets so we can realise some equity vs those checks and fold turn vs a bet unimproved.

I would like to see some math behind this approach as I am strugling with the same hand over and over again
If I understand your suggestion, you want to call the flop and then on turn when villain check bet it to steal the pot even unimproved.
Is that correct?

I didn't understand it like this. I think we call on the flop and check behind turn.

Yep id be very happy to call the flop vs a donk bet and check back turns and just realise the hands equity you might consider a semi bluff on some J or Q turns.I don't mind the fold on the flop though tbh vs the larger sizing so i don't think you did anything to wrong.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

call Flop. even if he only has pairs, your equity is decent.
and he could have some bluffs which you are ahead of.


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