TPTK vs Two Pair?

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I think small bet on flop keeps our range uncapped and potentially folds out some stuff like JTs that missed the flop if thats even in their 3-bet calling ranges. What type of hands can UTG be leading with on the turn for half pot? probrably not Qx since it is mult-way and an A comes on turn so I am wondering if he is betting his own Ax it seems kind of odd for him to have 66 or 33, he could have QQ, AQ or some weaker Ax is my thoughts. Your K♥: is blocking some combo draws like K♥:J♥: . Idk if I would fold the river, your getting 2:1 on a call , theres 6 combos of QQ, 6 combos of AQ, and there is a potential he is overplaying any decent Ace if that is the case then you are ahead of all aces that are not 2 pairs. A9s (2 combos),ATs ( 2combos),AJs (2combos), and AK is a chop (5 combos)

The thing is Casey, he can bet all those Aces on the turn but there is no need to go all in on the river especially if you have value with all those aces and you can see the showdown. So I don't know how likely would he turn his aces into a bluff on the river.

Idk I guess i´d fold since youre holdin that Kh. There are 3 combos of QQ and 6 AQ unless he is paying only suite then in 2 AQs but still the only bluff would be JhTh. You need him to do this with AJ o At a decent amount of times. Not knowing this I say fold

My mistake your right there are only 3 QQ combos, What I am wondering is what does villain think Heros river range is? Hes giving Hero 2:1 on a call which are pretty decent odds. Idk if I would look at it as villain is turning his hand into a bluff, villain may have hero on a specific range and be trying to extract max value as even when villain shoves river hero is getting pretty good pot odds.

Given Heros line of play his AK seems kind of under-repped. Villain may think AK not really in Hero’s range on this river, there’s broken heart draws so if Villain wants to make his hand look like a bluff but has a good Ax trying to extract value and induce a call from a weaker Ace I dont see this as being a bad play. It would help if we knew if villain ever bluffs.

If he ever has AJ here theres 8 combos, AK is a chop, its an interesting river spot .

I would expect most AJ and weaker Ax combo's would fold pre-flop. QQ could be in villains 4bet range as well. Villains range seems capped on the river and with the A♥: a missed flush draw isn't to likely. I wouldn't expect villain would over shove only with sets and AQ with in mind you can't really bluff the turn against 2 villains as well. I think the fold is pretty standard on the river without any specific reads.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Originally posted by SDK1987
I would expect most AJ and weaker Ax combo's would fold pre-flop. QQ could be in villains 4bet range as well. Villains range seems capped on the river and with the A♥: a missed flush draw isn't to likely. I wouldn't expect villain would over shove only with sets and AQ with in mind you can't really bluff the turn against 2 villains as well. I think the fold is pretty standard on the river without any specific reads.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Yes, logical stuff. What do you think villains turn betting range is? What could his river shoving range be? Do we think he is ever bluffing? Its hard to give him many of the FD’s because we have the Kh right? This discounts KQhh, KJhh,KThh. You have a good point about the turn, villain must have something with equity to make this bet into 2 people.

1 combo of AA, 3 of QQ , 6 of AQ and 6 of AK,
This is his value range on the turn I think?

Can we give villain the 2 combos of AJs and 2 combos of ATs in his range aswell or do we think this would be too loose?

I doubt he is doing this light OOP and betting into 2 players, msjakson called twice pre, that reeks of a pair and you still have to act. I can see him checking a Q on the flop but why bet the turn, the A is in your 3betting range unless he called you with a worse A, but there's not many left.
I don't know if he would shove AJ or AT here, what other info do you have on him besides being a tag?

Thanks for all the analysis.

Not much additional info since I recently started playing with him.