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AKo, missed flush, good bluff spot on the river?

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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG (Hero): $2.23 (112 bb)
MP: $2.00 (100 bb)
CO: $4.49 (225 bb)
BU: $3.15 (158 bb)
SB: $3.65 (183 bb)
BB: $2.36 (118 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $0.06, 1 fold, CO calls $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, 2 players fold

Flop: ($0.21) 5 7 Q (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.21) Q (3 players)
Hero bets $0.12, CO calls $0.12, BU folds

River: ($0.45) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Total pot: $0.45 (Rake: $0.02)

Showdown:
UTG (Hero) shows A K (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 32%, Turn: 43%, River: 0%)

CO shows 4 4 (two pair, Queens and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 68%, Turn: 57%, River: 100%)

CO wins $0.43

Villian's range should be capped on the turn correct? what do we think he is calling with?

I am thinking he can call turn with 87,65,88,99, maybe 98 with a club, any decent club. On the river the Jack doesn't really hit any of his range, is this a safe card to barrel river or should we give up? its hard to predict if villain is capable of laying down pairs or not... at 2nl a-lot of times they get sticky with top maybe even middle pair. I try to take note of this and adapt but sometimes you need to test the water and get called to know if they are playing that way or not... I don't usually try to bluff much and especially not anyone off top pair but it can be difficult to bluff at all because it feels so often that players at 2nl will be sitting here holding trips and slow-playing lol.


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1d4BestByTest
Joined: 11.12.2010

As far it is mattering on 2nl. But you are also repping nothing since Qx/clubs you would have c-bet.

Next, his range has a decent amount of Jx. What are the one club hands he possible has? AJ/KJ/JT. (And some Ax you have beat, but maybe will bluff you). Outside that, all the possible slow-played hands were still in his range. So I think the only hand you can bluff him off is the exact hand he has(if he already has called it on the turn)

So I think your play looks correct


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would most likely check the turn as well with 2 over cards and the nut flush draw.
It will be tough to get 2 villains to fold and you have some showdown value as well.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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1d4BestByTest
Joined: 11.12.2010

Aren't you also betting the turn to protect your showdown value. With no clean outs I don't think you can c/c the turn. All depending on how often it goes c/c on the turn behind ofc.

So let's say the bet on itself is a little bit -ev. But you are more likely to see the river( in an easier spot too). Since you can value bet/fold clubs and probably A/K too. Makes that the bet on turn not worth it.

. Your bet isn't worth the 0.12 maybe, but you get a bigger part of the 0.21 already in the pot


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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

Originally posted by liessens
As far it is mattering on 2nl. But you are also repping nothing since Qx/clubs you would have c-bet.

Next, his range has a decent amount of Jx. What are the one club hands he possible has? AJ/KJ/JT. (And some Ax you have beat, but maybe will bluff you). Outside that, all the possible slow-played hands were still in his range. So I think the only hand you can bluff him off is the exact hand he has(if he already has called it on the turn)

So I think your play looks correct

Can’t I rep flush or something? I guess a Queen would likely c-bet flop.. to be honest I was just trying to figure out what villain would fold depending on my bet sizing, I guess I could represent 88-JJ on the turn bet. I’m trying not to be result orientated but I feel like the river may have been a decent spot to bet again, what marginal hands can they call with against a 55-65% pot bet? Surely 44 would have to fold right? as well as a 5 or 7. and other weak PP’s. I think my hesitation to bet river was because we are OOP and have to act first so we know less about our opponents range when he just calls behind us on the turn as apposed to if he check called turn and we were IP and then he checked river it would be a mich easier spot probrably


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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

Originally posted by Casey55
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG (Hero): $2.23 (112 bb)
MP: $2.00 (100 bb)
CO: $4.49 (225 bb)
BU: $3.15 (158 bb)
SB: $3.65 (183 bb)
BB: $2.36 (118 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $0.06, 1 fold, CO calls $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, 2 players fold

Flop: ($0.21) 5 7 Q (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.21) Q (3 players)
Hero bets $0.12, CO calls $0.12, BU folds

River: ($0.45) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Total pot: $0.45 (Rake: $0.02)

Showdown:
UTG (Hero) shows A K (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 32%, Turn: 43%, River: 0%)

CO shows 4 4 (two pair, Queens and Fours)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 68%, Turn: 57%, River: 100%)

CO wins $0.43

Villian's range should be capped on the turn correct? what do we think he is calling with?

I am thinking he can call turn with 87,65,88,99, maybe 98 with a club, any decent club. On the river the Jack doesn't really hit any of his range, is this a safe card to barrel river or should we give up? its hard to predict if villain is capable of laying down pairs or not... at 2nl a-lot of times they get sticky with top maybe even middle pair. I try to take note of this and adapt but sometimes you need to test the water and get called to know if they are playing that way or not... I don't usually try to bluff much and especially not anyone off top pair but it can be difficult to bluff at all because it feels so often that players at 2nl will be sitting here holding trips and slow-playing lol.

I think some of the hands you mentioned would be a 3-bet IP.

Originally posted by liessens
As far it is mattering on 2nl. But you are also repping nothing since Qx/clubs you would have c-bet.

Next, his range has a decent amount of Jx. What are the one club hands he possible has? AJ/KJ/JT. (And some Ax you have beat, but maybe will bluff you). Outside that, all the possible slow-played hands were still in his range. So I think the only hand you can bluff him off is the exact hand he has(if he already has called it on the turn)

So I think your play looks correct

His river range has a decent amount of Jx?

Villain may call pre with AJo, KJs,KJo,JTs type hands that would continue with a good club,

AJo probrably wont fold, KJ probrably wont fold, JTs without a club should probrably be folding turn. Ill have to check equilab when I get a chance to see how many KJ combos with with a club there are . Villains AJo, we have the Ace of clubs and this lowers his combos of AJ too.

I think villains river range can be a ton of hands like 87s,76s,54s, A7s,A5s,33,44,66,88,99 . Lots of hands we may be able to fold was my thinking, if we barrel a Jack we could have rivered trips, have a flush , etc.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I would like to cbet flop in general with plan to go for triple barrel on club turn and also on some T and J possibly. That keeps your range more easily uncapped in villains eyes if they think about ranges. This approach might not be ideal on micro stake though if pool is too call happy.

It's not bad idea to check flop with some of your weaker Qx and some flush draws. Well depends how wide we open UTG on suited category I suppose.


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