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Second pair on flushy board HJ vs UTG

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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $4.37 (87 bb)
MP (Hero): $5.00 (100 bb)
CO: $6.25 (125 bb)
BU: $12.41 (248 bb)
SB: $5.59 (112 bb)
BB: $5.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with T A
UTG raises to $0.10, Hero 3-bets to $0.35, 4 players fold, UTG calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.77) 4 J T (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.56, UTG calls $0.56

Turn: ($1.89) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.87, UTG calls $0.87

River: ($3.63) 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $2.59 (all-in), MP (Hero) folds

Total pot: $3.63 (Rake: $0.15)
UTG wins $3.48


I 3bet/fold ATs preflop HJ vs UTG.
UTG is a fish no more info.
As played river is a clear fold.
But:
I decided to bet flop with second pair on flushy board
If I give villain's tight calling range result is

Board: 4♦J♥T♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    45.75%  45.54%   0.21% { QQ-88, AQs-AJs, KQs, AKo }
BU     54.25%  54.04%   0.21% { AsTs }

If I give him a bit looser range:

Board: 4♦J♥T♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP3    46.21%  44.37%   1.84% { QQ-88, AQs-ATs, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, AQo+ }
BU     53.79%  51.96%   1.84% { AsTs }

Well, result is pretty same.

Would be checkback turn and call resonable sizing on the river (around half pot) better play?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

If villian is a fish I don't know if villian will fold to many better hands pre-flop and that makes bluff 3betting tough and ATs isn't a bad hand to play post-flop with. I don't think it's to bad to just call pre-flop and play ATs in position against the fish. off course there is a decent change you will play multi way post-flop.

Post-flop I would most likely check behind the turn. it will be tough to get value or a better hand to fold. especially if villian is a fishy player.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Pokamon
Joined: 15.04.2006

as discussed in the other similar spot (your AQo hand) i prefer X, X, B or X, C, C on clean runouts. you have SDV, villain is a station. keep the pot small and under control.


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FriskyArt
Joined: 27.10.2009

@Pokamon: I'm a little confused X = check C = call? and what is SDV?

I agree to keep the pot small, you just have mid pair no need to bet so hard here.


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Pokamon
Joined: 15.04.2006

Originally posted by FriskyArt
X = check C = call

exactly, you cant use a C for both and X for check is what is commonly used.

Originally posted by FriskyArt
SDV

ShowDownValue.
so w SDV you do want to avoid, what happended in the hand: building a decent sized pot and end up folding. thats why you have to X at least somewhere on the earlier streets.


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Nachtkuetz
Joined: 13.02.2011

show down value :)


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FriskyArt
Joined: 27.10.2009

Thank you :f_thumbsup:


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

Originally posted by Pokamon
as discussed in the other similar spot (your AQo hand) i prefer X, X, B or X, C, C on clean runouts. you have SDV, villain is a station. keep the pot small and under control.

Thank you.
I think this may take time to implement this line into my play.
Please bear with me, if I post another similar hand asking the same :f_biggrin:
But I'll do my best to learn quicker.


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