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PLO25 AT55ss facing river x-r with nut low boat

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

No reads on villain. I check turn to pot control and allow villain chance to hit second best hand with board having ton of draws. Its also tough to get three street of value in general so I think weak boat is reasonable for this. River complete flush and I went for 3/4 pot aiming mainly flushes to call. Villain raises pot and gets me into nasty spot. I suppose theory wise we are never folding but these are very rarely done as bluff. From value I can beat like maybe nut flush or some 4468 type hand. Issue is that 77 and KK are rare. Dry K7 would make sense or K5 which I block.

Game #1686446709: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 15:38:35 2022/06/02
Seated players
Seat 4: jordan47 (€31.16)
Seat 6: Namasa (€36.97)
Blinds and button
Namasa has the button
Namasa posts small blind €0.10
jordan47 posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Namasa 5♦:T♠:A♦:5♥:
Preflop
Namasa raises €0.65 to €0.75
jordan47 calls €0.50
Flop 5♠:K♠:7♦: (1.5€)
jordan47 checks
Namasa bets €1.12
jordan47 calls €1.12
Turn K♣: (3.74€)
jordan47 checks
Namasa checks
River 4♠: (3.74€)
jordan47 checks
Namasa bets €2.80
jordan47 raises €12.14 to €12.14
Namasa?


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

without reads I fold the river: KK and 77 are rare when you know villain plays solid ranges but you dont. blocking K5 doesnt mean he never has it. you hold 6th nuts and I dont see people checkraising NF on paired board in general. I wouldnt and Im not in the current zone.

I like how the hand is played and I wonder about the flop in terms of GTO: when do we checkback bottom set here frome time to time? I felt like if we hold a spade like we do actually then betting is nice because we block some flushdraws. that also makes me wonder: what to do vs checkraise flop?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

In general I only check bottom set in HU pot if we have nothing to go with it. Here we block spade and have bd nfd. Also in HU ranges tend to be very wide so there is probably less checking with hand as strong as set in general. Versus x-r I would have likely called with plan to ship it versus turn barrel on blanks. I dont think 3betting necessarily make ton of sense when we are in position.


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

ok so even if we block fds that makes him to be on the valueside checkraising more often we dogo broke in a single raised pot with bottom set. is it because the hand is played HU? or would you have the same plan playing 6max BUvsBB i.e.?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well I would not be happy about it but board like this does offer plenty of draws as well. Also T♠: is not blocking those draws that heavily. It's very different spot if we had like A♠:. Also I would say having 8, 7, 6 of spade would probably be worse from that view than T.

I think BUvsBB would be similar case with wide ranges. With bdfd we have more playability so we can go for cbet and continue versus raise. With dry bottom set we would prefer to pot control more depending of read on villain.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

When in doubt, check solver

In HU, solver mixes turn mostly with 1/2 pot and check.

I think we have two options, check turn and call/bet river or bet turn and check back river. In both cases, we are looking to get one bet as value. If we play old school poker, the question is whether it's easier to get that one bet on the turn or on the river. In my experience versus unknown at PLO25, it's easier to get on the turn as draws will not pay if they miss the river. If opponent likes to attack capped ranges, check turn and call river is the way to go.


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