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PLO50 AA76r call or 4bet pre?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Villain is on aggro side with 3bets but not overly so. If I 4bet SPR is almost 2 on flop. I suppose 4bet might be better than call? Do we prefer to call with bit better AA like AA76ss or with these rainbow ones?

Game #1723364025: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 16:11:41 2022/08/22
Seated players
Seat 1: TooTiiMaj (€38.26)
Seat 3: KingLo0cO (€133.69) (sitting out)
Seat 4: Sari96 (€76.47)
Seat 6: Burias (€96.43)
Blinds and button
Burias has the button
TooTiiMaj posts small blind €0.25
Sari96 posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Burias 6♦:A♠:7♥:A♣:
Preflop
Burias raises €1.75 to €1.75
TooTiiMaj folds
Sari96 raises €5 to €5.50
Burias calls €3.75
Flop 7♠:5♣:A♦: (11.25€)
Sari96 bets €5.62
Burias calls €5.62
Turn 9♥: (22.49€)
Sari96 bets €16.86
Burias calls €16.86
River 9♠: (56€)
Sari96 bets €16
Burias raises €68.45 to €68.45, and is all-in


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

In terms of slowplaying you want to do it
a) IP
b) double suited connected aces


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I dont think best kind of AA are good for just call. They are simply too good for it. Call is not exactly done to slowplay but to avoid situations where we have mediocre or high SPR after 4betting. Though in this case with SPR 2 we can still stack off fairly wide I suppose. But like 200+bb deep I would definitely not want to 4bet AA76r personally in this spot.


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

i dont remember gto trainers slowing down with aces 200bb deep but i do remember they trap the best of aces sometimes IP late vs blinds at 100bb and of course when villain can fold to a 4bet and 3bets wider than average.

so thats what I thought you were asking about.

in your specific hand I definetly 4bet simply because that is where its value comes from. but lets hear other opinions.


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BradNitt
Joined: 22.07.2011

would be correct to call deeper with rainbow aces here
as rule of thumb for rainbow aces the best sidecard for 4bets is ten+connected, think because its so strong in blocking straight combos/ blocker playability
ss AA2/3x disconnected type of stuff

slowplaying double suited aces sounds very new^^ think ghaleon also explained well the reasoning


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

I cant remember wether I have this theory from older strategy days like deucescracked (before GTO) or if there actually is GTO concept. I searched but could not find.

But I also have to add that calling good doublesuited aces instead of 4betting makes sense if:
- it is like SB vs BU 3betting
- capable of folding to a 4bet
- AND what I did not mention so far: we need to unblock kings/queens so that SB can give his OP more equity to broke most flops.

wether it is very new or very old I heard of it once and it does make sense to me for specific situations.


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