QQ in big boy pot

I would just shove preflop.

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
I would just shove preflop.

It's too late now

I will use way smaller size for 4bet...23-24bb, 24 looks good, 0.48...If you like such a big size, you must just shove...I mean with this hand...Very often will be A, K OTF, will be weird..You can do that (monster 4bet size) with Ax hand...AK, AQ..

OTF I guess it's fine..OTT just give up..Still can be check-check to the SD..Nothing you can do already..Sorry..

Shove isnt that good because hero wont be able to 4bet bluff. A 4bet is enough to chase bluffs off the hand but if it happens that we hit V's top range we wont be able to get away and save some money.

As played i am gonna cbet OTF as well for value and protection. There is one overcard already. The board is realitvely safe for 99-JJ hands. OTT one of the worst possible hands. It will be very hard for you to find value of weaker hands. Good news is that you block KQ,AQ and will very unlikely to see Kx hands. I expect Kx to fold OTF. There isnt a fd. So i am gonna check.

If V shove i am probably gonna fold unless he is aggressive. I dont see 99-JJ to shove on this ugly board. If he checks i am toward making a very small bet OTR 25-30%

I think everyone is making the same mistake at 2nl with QQ. No one wants to get it in anymore, I'm just going to 4bet shove from now on.

Shove isnt that good because hero wont be able to 4bet bluff. A 4bet is enough to chase bluffs off the hand but if it happens that we hit V's top range we wont be able to get away and save some money.

That makes sense, I do 4bet bluff, but mostly in Rush there seems to be way more 3 bet bluffing going on.

These hands I have been posting was when I was chasing the leader board, I was mostly playing 10+ tables (gg capped tables now to 9), so when it comes to who the villains are, I can't remember. When I play again, I am dropping the table count to 4, I can't really make proper decisions (prior to this I struggle with what to do) when there is lots going on across that many tables.

@Napoleon, can you show us balanced range for 4bet from SB? With bluff 4bets..I am pretty curious You use 4bet bluffs vs random player. As default. Well, show us..Show the range...
What will be a good balanced range... In this situation. And how this will be the max EV...Can you explain why we should use bluff 4bet on NL2? I know why or why not...I am just asking for your explanation. What is your reason? Why we should use 4bet bluffs from SB..NL2..What do you OR with 3x, what do you call vs 10bb 3bet, what is your 4bet range...

You should not have 4bet bluffs vs random player (vs the field).

Shove isnt that good because hero wont be able to 4bet bluff.

This is a nonsense..Bad advice...You may have only cold 4bet "bluff"..With hands like AQ, KQs, AJs...Because you can't call (-EV), but still can be a little value in cold 4bet...In some situations. He is talking for something else. And no reason for that. It's a -EV move..In vacuum..And you should play "in vacuum" against the field. For "max EV"...If you have some observations for possible high 3bet, then you can use balanced range for 4bet. But I am pretty sure he can't show such a range...
Also, if the field "allows" this , you can use range for shove 4bet. With "bluffs"...Bluff heavy as well..Hands like 22 and A5s. But you should know the 3bet of the field. The average 3bet...And "his" range for call vs shove. Possible range..There some strategies with such a range (as default)...But I don't think this will be good for NL2 for example. You can play only with value 4bet and you are OK. No reason for "bluff 4bet"..What can be the reason!?
You can just shove here . And forget..If you play at many tables. You can use big size with AK..You can use small size with AA/KK...Nothing wrong in that...