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KornoutOkoralej
Joined: 15.12.2022

Hello everyone,

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 210 BB - 82H - 20/14/9
UTG: 130 BB
MP: 60.5 BB
CO: 38.5 BB
BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 186 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♦ T♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 9♣ K♦ 6♦
Hero bets 2 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Standard cbet

Turn: (10 BB, 2 players) 5♦
Hero bets 5 BB, BB calls 5 BB

Value bet

River: (20 BB, 2 players) Q♠
Hero bets 13 BB, BB raises to 200 BB and is all-in, Hero ?

Another value bet


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

I think this is a fold but on a rare occasion this could be bluff with the NFD blocker.

Still a fold, imo.

If that’s me as your villain, I am not bluffing. I am trolling you, yes, but I do have it.


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

I fold here. You really need to know your opponent can do this with worse and from what I've seen at 2nl only the maniacs would do this. I have seen players donk out with a str8 or rr a str8, but to shove this deep its always the nuts.


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KornoutOkoralej
Joined: 15.12.2022

At first I was decided to fold, but somehow I didn't believe he had the nuts, so after a moment's hesitation I closed my eyes and called.
I found that there are a number of players on nl2 who shove to intimidate their opponents and force them to fold.
However, it was still probably a risky call.

Would you expect this?

Hero calls 163 BB and is all-in

BB shows 4♦ 3♦ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 34%, Flop 18%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows Q♦ T♦ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 66%, Flop 82%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 359 BB


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

On NL2 I need really good reads to fold the 2nd nuts in a blind against blind battle.
Villain can easily play a weaker flush like this as well I think. Villain could 3bet pre-flop most suited aces and you block 2 of them.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

Originally posted by KornoutOkoralej
At first I was decided to fold, but somehow I didn't believe he had the nuts, so after a moment's hesitation I closed my eyes and called.
I found that there are a number of players on nl2 who shove to intimidate their opponents and force them to fold.
However, it was still probably a risky call.

Would you expect this?

Hero calls 163 BB and is all-in

BB shows 4♦ 3♦ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 34%, Flop 18%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows Q♦ T♦ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 66%, Flop 82%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 359 BB

Well sometimes you gotta go with your read as well, you are playing with V so you would know better. I've seen this, as I am still playing 2nl, but it's very opponent dependent.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by KornoutOkoralej
At first I was decided to fold, but somehow I didn't believe he had the nuts, so after a moment's hesitation I closed my eyes and called.
I found that there are a number of players on nl2 who shove to intimidate their opponents and force them to fold.
However, it was still probably a risky call.

Would you expect this?

Hero calls 163 BB and is all-in

BB shows 4♦ 3♦ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 34%, Flop 18%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows Q♦ T♦ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 66%, Flop 82%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins 359 BB

Genius.


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