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AQo How to think through a hand like this?

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Akuramoney
Joined: 25.04.2013

Preflop i 3bet vs UTG to shorten his range.
With this flop im not very comfortable because i think JJ+, AJ+ could be in his 3bet calling range on the preflop. On the Flop i bet about 2/3 of the pot to also not give him the right potodds to call for flashdraws.
On the turn to be honest i was a little suprised and overwhelmed of his checkraise and thought that it was unlikely that he has the last Ace and just made the call without thinking to much.

How do you guys think through a hand like this?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 100 BB
BTN: 55.5 BB
SB: 97 BB
BB: 45.5 BB
UTG: 105.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♠ A♣

UTG raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) J♦ 2♠ A♦
UTG checks, Hero bets 12 BB, UTG calls 12 BB

Turn: (43.5 BB, 2 players) A♠
UTG checks, Hero bets 29 BB, UTG raises to 84.5 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 50 BB and is all-in

River: (201.5 BB, 2 players) 2♥

Spoiler

UTG shows 2♣ 2♦ (Four of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 52%, Flop 97%, Turn 84%)
Hero shows Q♠ A♣ (Full House, Aces full of Twos)
(Pre 48%, Flop 3%, Turn 16%)
UTG wins 194.5 BB


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

With Ad and As he hasn't many draws and we don't get information for him. More players are passive here than aggresive and specific on board AAxx and check-raise all in on turn after check-call flop he hasn't bluff often (yeah still nl2 but people here more times no 3bet premium hands preflop and slowplay monster hands postflop than aggresive maniac). He can still here AK, AJ, JJ and maybe 22.


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Akuramoney
Joined: 25.04.2013

So do where do you see the heros mistake? Already by betting the flop or by calling the shove? How would you have played the flop and turn?


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

I bet smaller on flop and turn nearly 1/2 pot. With this sizing bets which You use here after push opponent is hard to fold.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

Well played


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I don't think I can gets away from trips against a random player on NL2. Sizing on flop and turn could be smaller, but in the end it makes not to much differents on this run out.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Akuramoney
Joined: 25.04.2013

I just discovered GTO Wizard and uploaded the hand to see what happens. I actually don't know yet how to properly interpret the hand with GTO Wizard but here is what i got:

PREFLOP: The heros raise of 9BB is the right choice
FLOP: As @Aleasy77 and @ SDK1987 already mentioned, the betsize is to big here. The recommended betsize is about 3.5 times smaller. What i don't understand is why smaller is better here? With this kind of flop there are flush and straight draws. That's why i thought it would be better to not give the villain the right price?
TURN: Here is where the actual mistake happend. The recommended play would be 'Check' and in a few situations a small bet. To call the shove afterwards seems to be the right desicion.

GTO Wizard Result:

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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

Ace of diamonds block some combonation potential flush draw and straight draws. On this position and call 3bet without position he Has not many range here only some suited connectors. If 2 is on diamond instant Ace he Has here more combonation flush draws here do solver on this case prefer less size on 3bet pot.


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Akuramoney
Joined: 25.04.2013

Ok i think i understand and maybe even found my mistake...

As i said:

With this flop im not very comfortable because i think JJ+, AJ+ could be in his 3bet calling range on the preflop. On the Flop i bet about 2/3 of the pot to also not give him the right potodds to call for flashdraws.

I gave the villain a 3bet calling range of: JJ+, AJ+. So then it's very unlikely the villain has flushdraws, therefore i should have bet smaller.

Asume the Hero wouldn't have 3betet preflop and just called the villains bet (of course it wouldn't be the right play), i think then the 2/3 potbet would be ok?


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