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PLO50 AQ75sss triple barrel bluff

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

SB is reggy looking and has played on tight side. Very rare to see him calling SB.

So preflop standard open. Flop I think we probably want to cbet more or less every AQ combo. Though this is one of weakest ones so might be reasonable to check. But yeah I dont really check back top two almost ever in Axx flops especially when my preflop range is super wide. Assuming its non monotone or straight version.

Turn weaken my hand strength a lot but its also spot to decide if we want to go for big bluff or try to check to showdown. I think we probably prefer checking more if we had spade? That way we block some flushes and can potentially use hand as bluff catcher on river. I would think its sort of better to not have any spade for triple barrel bluff as we can put flushes in tough spot.

River I follow through saying I have AA, QQ, 33 or A3. Villain should have some boats in his range but I think A3 is pretty rare. QQ might also x-r flop fair amount of time. AA is also somewhat possible but I think that should really x-r flop almost always.

Game #1933870223: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 17:29:08 2023/08/21
Seated players
Seat 1: TeddyRo (€50)
Seat 3: piraaatten (€99.76)
Seat 4: s_wildcat (€28)
Seat 5: Villuu (€114.05)
Seat 6: mgl2354 (€75.26)
Blinds and button
Villuu has the button
mgl2354 posts small blind €0.25
TeddyRo posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Villuu Q♣:7♣:5♥:A♣:
Preflop
piraaatten folds
s_wildcat folds
Villuu raises €1.75 to €1.75
mgl2354 calls €1.50
TeddyRo folds
Flop Q♠:A♠:3♦: (4€)
mgl2354 checks
Villuu bets €3
mgl2354 calls €3
Turn 3♠: (10€)
mgl2354 checks
Villuu bets €7.50
mgl2354 calls €7.50
River K♥: (25€)
mgl2354 checks
Villuu bets €25


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I would most likely check behind the river as PLO fish. You have decent showdown value and is tough to get action of worse with betting. I'm not sure villain is capable to fold better hands. Than you need specific reads I think.

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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

I think Its a good cbet Than give up. If he was fold happy, sometimes we can baller , but most of the time we have go to showdown.

In plo most of the bluffs not successfull with each street agression but with River agression. Its bad to Build a huge pot to win with bluff.

Its not a nice play Probably i will Tell, but You can check turn and reraise River. The Money invested is the same and You generate information by his River play. I would also cbet half pot so your range is kept wider can be involved ‘KK with turn check


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Is turn sizing same with a boat?

His range is weighted towards flushes as we block A and Q and unblock spades. Therefore I think the options are fire turn and river, or check turn. After turn check, raising river is a good option as it looks really strong. And the story would make sense.

If we bet turn, we must fire river. The problem is that when opponent didn't give credit on the big bet on the turn, there is a good chance he won't give it credit on the river.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yeah I would bet turn same with boat. Make sense to go on bigger side as we say we have nut flush or better. If turn was non spade 3 I would tend to go 1/3 or half pot more often. Though perhaps this particular hand would even then like to bet bigger as we totally unblock all draws and need more protection.

I think people will feel like they need to call at least once on turn when completing flush but might be reluctant to call river pot?

We definitely want to have bet turn, bet river range and AQ makes best bluff combo imo. Or could some sort of KsQxx etc. make more sense?


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

I think for triple barrel bluff we want to have that A, and not Ks. He shouldn't have AA often as he didn't 3bet pre. But with naked Q blocker he will have Axxx more often and might think that he is blocking the hand you represent. Of course with that preflop we should play QQ in the same way as AA. AQ is really nice blocker as it blocks heavily his boats.

The main question here is, how likely he is to fold flush. Some players always calls once, and then wonder on the river what to do. Some will call river always. If opponent is a bit tight, then the Fold Equity on the river should go up a little. Both lines (bet, check, raise or bet, bet, bet) look really strong and opponent should put you on boat or big bluff. Therefore the dynamics on the table might affect the decision making too.

Of course when opponent shows KKss it sucks. :f_drink: :f_drink: :f_drink:


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

He folded this time. But yeah I think check turn work better if we have spade as that increase our showdown value. So with turn check our goal is to check at least blank rivers I would imagine. Perhaps turn hand into bluff if river is broadway completing some straights as well.

Also on other side I think its good to ask what sort of boats we want to check? I would imagine prime combo to check could perhaps be like AQQK with K♠: as we make it very tough for villain to have hand to call triple barrel. Then if we unblock QQ or nut flush be more toward triple barreling? Well of course versus QQ we can likely get raise in on the river as well.


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