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One more thing :

when it says in the article about the turn that with the initiative you bet draws with 2ops or less and check these draws with 2+ops to eventually call a bet - are both the gutshot, and overcards included in these ''draws''?

Edit (Last thing :)) :

once again initiative - check draws with 2+ ops to eventually call a bet - so obviously this brings back the second question firstly. secondly - does this mean that if there is exactly one more bet after us we call it no matter what if we have the initiative, regardless of the ONE BET BEHIND YOU rule, where we only call monster/flush/oesd/d.gut and call a gutshot 10:1 pot odds?

I needed these things cleared up, I want to play with only basic for now, just to make it second nature and then add odds/out and advanced bronze articles. I am making a steady profit this way but need to clear these things up.

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Hello!

Your example - I'm guessing that two oponnents fold on turn?

Well it is still considered a made hand, the basic articles tell you that a made hand is top pair good kicker + but that's incorrect - a made hand is pair+.

Of course you have to c/c that river, I mean why should the oponnent have an ace? There really is no reason for us to fold that river. Since he only called preflop he probably has a hand like KQ, QJ, QT or even a worse queen. He'd raise AQ preflop but since there's a possibillity he has two pair or better we just call down. And yes, that's the example for only calling a top pair on turn and calling river with it.

Second question:

You should only bet strong draws on turn with initiative (OESD or flush draw) and check/call overcards (need 1:7 pot odds) and gutshot (need 1:10 pot odds) according to odds and outs. It's not very precisely written in the article, I agree. The video example tells us to bet STRONG draws though (overcards/gutshot are considered weak draws).

Third question:

You should only call according to odds and outs (you shouldn't call a bet with a gutshot if you're not getting 10:1 pot odds and overcards if you're not getting 7:1 pot odds).

I hope everything is cleared up now :).

Regards,

Primzi

EDIT - now on beginer forum

Same as above