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PLO50 AQJ3ss 3bet pot, triple barrel bluff?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Villain has been on lag side and very active. No reads on being call machine though. So preflop standard raise-call.

Flop I thought to start betting as we have no showdown value but block AA and have decent equity. If we get raised we are mostly in pretty bad shape anyway so I dont mind folding. Do have one spade though I suppose 3 is not that relevant. I think using bigger flop size would make sense as we mainly say we have trips or better anyway.

Turn open another fd so maybe I should slowdown? On other hand I thought this hand does make very solid river bluff on blank as we unblock so much natural folds. Increased sizing here.

River is close to total blank and went for half pot shove.

Game #1990648818: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 18:15:13 2023/11/24
Seated players
Seat 1: mikidee (€177.25)
Seat 2: Blk72 (€36.24) (sitting out)
Seat 3: Nanaosa (€50)
Seat 4: neitsytsaara (€50)
Seat 5: AAAA403 (€0) (sitting out)
Blinds and button
Nanaosa has the button
neitsytsaara posts small blind €0.25
mikidee posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Nanaosa J♣:A♣:3♠:Q♦:
Preflop
Nanaosa raises €1.75 to €1.75
neitsytsaara folds
mikidee raises €5 to €5.50
Nanaosa calls €3.75
Flop T♠:K♥:K♠: (11.25€)
mikidee checks
Nanaosa bets €3.75
mikidee calls €3.75
Turn 6♥: (18.75€)
mikidee checks
Nanaosa bets €14.06
mikidee calls €14.06
River T♦: (46.87€)
mikidee checks
Nanaosa bets €26.69, and is all-in


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

And when he snap calls with AA you are not sure what to think! :)

If you want to fight laggy with fire, this is fine. But quite often those laggy players are not happy to fold. Any reads about how much he likes to fold would be good here. At least you get the info on the river.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yeah he did call with A♠:A♦:8♠:6♣: but I dont know if that is necessarily bad to be honest. Thing I noticed solver wise was that hands that blocked front door fd were fairly often actually calling more. I think logic being that busted fd are less likely to triple barrel bluff so blocking those can be sort of good at least in some spots. Now of course that depends heavily on how player actually bluffs. Like if our betting range is heavily centered on trips+ and nut fd with straight draw its obviously very bad to have busted nfd.

Other components of his hand being 6 which is not that important but does block boats little bit. Now I would triple all trips I decided to start betting so blocker value is limited. But third big factor for villain is unblocking all QJ9 type cards. So I think his call is probably fine. At least versus someone like me :)


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

But does the player pool triple barrell as often as solver does?

Opponent might have the right thinking behind call down or the wrong one, we never know.

With the check-call, check-call line it's often a hand that has showdown value. You block the straight draws, and with draw the laggy probably bets himself.

Often with a bit more aggressive players they take passive lines mostly with made hands and get more aggro with air/draws. If he is laggy too at postflop, I would be a bit alarmed when he checks after 3betting.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

Spewy bluff i believe. I dont like the play. Prefer give up turn or flop


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yeah this was most likely too aggro line overall. That said I wont find enough bluffs most likely anyway to have balanced approach in this spot as I would tend to give up high equity draws anyway on the river at least. But theoretically AQJ combo is pretty bad to bluff river. Also there was argument on discord of using like half pot turn barrel to make it tougher to play. Some of hands like 7755 would make better bluffs in general for unblocking most draws.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

Its not necessary to be balanced 100% of the time when we play for stack I think. I thought he had TT. I would have folded AAxx on turn or call one street only to balance my River check call or fold range against better players like you.


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