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[Closed] Nl 50 (J,To) SB open raise

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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$9.63:///////;BB$50.70:159/27 /8 /3.6/22 /11 /0 /63 ;[/tg]
0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with J♠, T♥
8 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1.00.

Flop: ($3.00) 4♦, 8♠, 6♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $2.00, BB raises to $8.85, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $13.85

With no stats, should I be folding pf, sklansky pushing, or open raising as played? After the call, is it even worth c-betting?
Thanks


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With no stats I'd be folding JTo pre-flop. With these stats I'd also be folding since BB seems pretty loose.

As played I would c-bet/fold as in a standard raise.


Aimboy
Joined: 03.06.2008

With no stats I would play like you did on this hand, but as you have BB's stats, his bbvsSteal = 0 and 27 vp, I just fold this hand preflop.


Originally posted by Aimboy
With no stats I would play like you did on this hand, but as you have BB's stats, his bbvsSteal = 0 and 27 vp, I just fold this hand preflop.

Hmm, you steal against unknown with JTo? Maybe my range is too tight.. Roughly, what would your range be for such a situation?


Aimboy
Joined: 03.06.2008

Usually I have stats when I'm stealing from sb, but in that case, against unknown opponent I would raise with: 22+, any Ax, JT+, K8+, Q9+, T9s, 98s. But I am quite loose for sss player


Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

And no one in favour of just pushing pf - which according to my Sklansky chart ('modified ranges') is +EV? Though maybe I've misunderstood?


I didn't really go through Slansky's crazy numbers yet, so no idea


burek2000
Joined: 16.11.2007

Hey Tim64,

I would fold JTo in the SB against unknown and against loose opponent like this one preflop.

I use S-C ranges and not modified ones, so I would fold JTo here, but since it's in the modified ranges a push should be profitable, thus it's better to push than to fold.

So, in summary, against tight opponent raise 3BB and against unknown/loose opponent push>fold>raise3BB.

Regards,
burek2000