PLO100 HU J874ss 3bet pot, flop float becomes big bluff

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ghaleon

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26.08.2024, 21:32 0

So villain had been very active in HU though this was first 3bet in around 20 or so hands. Preflop is borderline and in practice could be best to fold. This might be bit too high rake game to be this loose.

Flop I were bit unsure but thought we probably dont fold much ngs with some chance to turn more straight draws. But having no bdfd is bad. Anyway I did check gto side in trainer with HU and in 6max (BUvsSB) and in both ngs basically never folds to half pot cbet. That was on 743r flop though. Personally I would not have probably almost no raising range on flop. Well maybe some two pair with support. But like most straights I would just call and sets as well.

Turn is not that great with board pairing card and maybe its best to check and kinda give up. But I decided to rep I have AA beat and went for 3/4 pot bet.

River is interesting as it brings another pairing card. Now straight and boats are no brainer value bets for me. Probably would not bet that many trips though I would think solver probably value bets some or maybe even most of them. But yeah probably some like 3x with straight blocker would be fine. Though SPR is still around 1.4 but not sure if we should in general use small size. I think straight is still totally fine to pot at least.

Well from what I tried to check in 6max sims it seems like we should probably give this up good amount of time on both turn and river. So in practice if I did use randomizer it could be like 1/3 of time bet turn and 1/3 of time bet river or something like that. On other hand I think spot like this most people in pool are heavily under bluffing.

So anyway as verdict: Reasonable or mega spew? ♦

Game #2145167303: Table €100 PL - 0.50/1.00 - Pot Limit Omaha - 18:36:20 2024/08/26
Seated players
Seat 3: LuckyPotAA (€163.30)
Seat 4: Muurtas (€180.78)
Blinds and button
Muurtas has the button
Muurtas posts small blind €0.50
LuckyPotAA posts big blind €1
Hole cards
Dealt to Muurtas 8♣:4♠:J♥:7♠:
Preflop
Muurtas raises €2.50 to €3
LuckyPotAA raises €8 to €9
Muurtas calls €6
Flop 6♣:3♦:2♥: (18€)
LuckyPotAA bets €9
Muurtas calls €9
Turn 3♠: (36€)
LuckyPotAA checks
Muurtas bets €27
LuckyPotAA calls €27
River 2♣: (90€)
LuckyPotAA checks
Muurtas bets €90

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Mascherano95

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27.08.2024, 15:19 0

I'd fold pre but I tend to avoid 3-max setups so Idk. 6-max would be an open fold from BU but I assume u know that. The hand is crap.

I'd also fold against the 3-bet. 3bet ranges in general don't contain enough weak-structured hand like solver would 3bet light stuff like A997sa but most human players don't, so when people expand their 3bets they do it more merged -> we rather 4bet and fold more of our bottom flatting range.

Floating pure blockers in PLO is a mistake. I think you gotta fold the flop. Blockers work in a way they can shift marginal spots by a few % towards one decision but do no justify a play on it own. You might take a look at the numbers of blocker effects (I should too so no offense but clear mistake imo).

Edit: I just saaw u had a gutshot aswell. So it is not that bad but without bdfd I personally would fold. I also like a small bluffraise more than calling without improvement possibilities.

The 3♠: is not a helpful card in loose duels as still pfa has the overpair-advantage, I would rather check-back give up. Afaik both players are supposed to check here frequently.

The river is a blank and the idea from turn play remains the same. If villain has a balanced game he will call frequently once calling the turn (at least he should).

Edit: If villain has fit-fold tendencies or plays handstrength-orientated, a river barrel could be fine (at least better then turn bet river check-back) but I don't think it would be an highly profitable bluff either. Having no overpair blockers is bad here. So I also would not stab on a BX-line. You might think having those low cards is helpful blocking villains hits but they also block his flop semi-bluffing range. So facing the turn check our hand is not a good bluffing candidate imo.

Complete blunder throughout the whole hand imo^^

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