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ElleDriver
Joined: 25.08.2005

1) fold after 3-bet of this very passiv fish in a this small pot o.k. ?
PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder

Stats
SB (53/2/0.46/38)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7♠, Q♦
4 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.00 SB) 5♠, Q♠, 9♦ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 3.50 BB.

2) do you b/f or b/c the river here?
PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (6 handed) HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♠, Q♥
1 folds, MP raises, 1 folds, BU calls, 1 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP calls, BU calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 2♦, T♣, 7♦ (3 players)
Hero bets, MP folds, BU calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) J♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU calls.

River: (7.75 BB) A♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, BU checks.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB.

3) is the fold to weak here even against a 3-bet of a passiv fish ?

PartyPoker 2.00/4.00 Limit Hold'em (5 handed) HandRecorder

Stats
BB (49/17/1.29/43)

Preflop: Hero is BU with 6♣, 6♠
1 folds, CO calls, Hero raises, 1 folds, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) K♥, 4♥, 3♣ (3 players)
BB bets, CO calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, CO calls, Hero folds.

Turn: (7.25 BB) J♠ (2 players)
BB bets, CO calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 9♠ (2 players)
BB checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB.

3)


3 replies

1) Tough one. I don´t think that SB re-raise with 9. He could be on the flush or straight draw. I would fold it

2) Nicely played. I also prefer c/c river, ace is too scary card for me.

3) BB is so deem certain about his hand. Either he is on the flush draw, or he has king. I would fold it also. Very few improving odds and any high card could beat you.


Remoh
Joined: 11.03.2006

1) I think I have at least 5 outs and so I would call the 3-bet and folding it unimproved on the turn.

2) Against an unknown opponent I would bet/fold the river. I don't think that he will bluff on his busted flushdraw. Most hands he will bet beats us and worse hands like pairs of T or J, he could check behind.
Bet/fold against unknown would be my prefered line. If he is more aggressive, check/call would be my favorite.

3) Firstly, I don't think that he is so passive. Sure he has only "1.29" AF but he has a VPIP of 49. I would say that he is passive if his AF would be less than 0.90.
Now to the hand.
I think I would be weaker than you and fold it after the first bet. The problem is, if we are ahead we have reverse implied odds and because CO calls we have to play against two players who could be on a draw or who still have beaten us.

A comment from a more experienced player would be very nice...


1) Don't fold this hand too quickly, especially not on the flop. You will get pushed around by your opponents with that weak play. Winning by folding of course but not top pair in a SB vs BB situation. I really need a lot of hands from villain to fold it right away.

3) This guy is absolutly not passive! He is aggressive.
So i like the raise here and hope that the aggro guy will 3bet to throw the other one out of the hand.

Anyway it is very important to understand that you can not say 1 AF is passive and 1.5 is aggressive. You must see the AF always in relation to the WTS.

Someone with WTS 35 and 1.5 AF is more passive but someone with WTS 50 and the same AF is really aggressive