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Glazenburg
Joined: 11.01.2008

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Hero (UTG) ($37.71)
Button ($49.90)
SB ($29.40)
BB ($25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4, Q, 2, Q
BB bets $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, 1 fold, SB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.65) 9, K, 4 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.65) 2 (3 players)
SB bets $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7.50, SB raises to $25.15, Hero raises to $36.86 (All-In), SB calls $3.40 (All-In)

River: ($59.75) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $59.75 | Rake: $2

Don't know what the handconverter did with the hand, but BB was UTG and I was MP. I might have 3-bet preflop, but i also like cold calling with QQ. Maybe 3-bet is better to get the blinds out of the hand. The UTG raiser was quite solid so i respected his UTG raise and just called for set mining and redraws with both flushes.

Flop i check behind, board is not quite good for me.

Turn i get 2 pair and 2 fushdraws. Should i shove here against most likely set of K or 2's or inside wrap + FD??

Had to call $20 for final pot of $60 after my 3-bet on the turn. I think 3-bet folding this turn is too weak.


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alejandrosh
Joined: 02.07.2008

preflop is fine, I like calling more than 3betting with the 4 and 2 not being such great support (besides being DS of course)

I like it as played , raise folding is too weak. you have decent equity even against set of kings which is possible that went for a check raise and failed. you also block some good wraps with your QQ , you are ahead of hands like J♣T♣Q* having wrap+FD


Isn't that a gross starting hand?


Sim87
Joined: 29.10.2006

Originally posted by silent21
Isn't that a gross starting hand?

high pair + double suit makes it a mediocre starting hand


Very marginal imo and should be played in position not UTG and q high flush draw is very shitty but i may be very wrong.Need another comment for playing this hand corectly.But as utg.....


alejandrosh
Joined: 02.07.2008

converter mistake, BB is UTG, and If I'm not mistaken we are either CO or BU here , depends if there was or not a SB in this hand. also we are 4 handed , no need to be that tight


i am new to plo but should i be scare for a higher flush.Had lost to bigger flushes even if i knew i got beaten but as i said i am kinda new to PLO.


alejandrosh
Joined: 02.07.2008

yes, in PLO you should be carefull with non nut flushes. in this hand it's not that likely to see an oponent bet/shipping the turn if he only has a nut FD (if he has that we are ahead anyway with 2pair , blockers and a live FD)


thank you :)


schizoid
Joined: 14.11.2007

First of all, I think this particular flop gives you decent stealing oppurtunites after preflop agressor has checked which indicates that he doesnt have much of it and you have 2 blockers to potential wraps and flushdraws making it less likely someone has ones, check behind is fine too as you dont mind a free card here, its just a matter of style, after all. Your raise on the turn is questionable, because you cant really represent any good made hand here after you checked such a draw heavy flop in position, so it becomes obvious that you are on a draw which got further imrovement on this turn card. Thus, if SB is somewhat of a thinking player, you have no fold equity against any better hand he may hold, and, surely, you cant fold to a shove in this spot which means that you're just bloating the pot when you are behind (you have around 35% against a set and you are even money or slight underdog vs. 2-pair type of hands) . Of course, he may have a draw too, but, against his total range (lets define it as just KKxx and QJTx with a flush draw, because only few 99xx combos make up a playable hand), you still have only 40%, despite having most of his draws crushed.
I think your best option on the turn is to just call, as you have nice implied odds: there are 2 flushdraws on board, so if you hit either of them, villain will be inclined to c\c in a hope that you missed another one.


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