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Becks777

Joined: 04.03.2006

Posts: 641

18.07.2009, 20:53 0

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NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($103)
BB ($104)
UTG ($101)
CO ($144)
Hero ($136)

Dealt to Hero Q♠ Q♦

UTG raises to $4, CO raises to $12, Hero calls $12, fold, fold, UTG calls $8

FLOP ($37.50) 8♠ 9♦ 3♥

UTG checks, CO bets $20, Hero calls $20, UTG folds

TURN ($77.50) 8♠ 9♦ 3♥ K♥

CO checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($77.50) 8♠ 9♦ 3♥ K♥ T♦

CO bets $37, Hero folds

CO wins $75.50

MP: 56/18/1.26/24.5/120 h
CO: 23/19/2.5/21/237 h

Didn´t want to 4bet because MP will only ship AA KK and he is 3betting MP light because hes a fish + we are 136 bb deep. So i want to keep the fish in and JJ TT 99 from CO.
Flop i just call because CO can fold JJ TT when i ship.
Turn i check behind and TT improves on the river, i don´t think he wont bet JJ.
Maybe bet the turn for free sd?

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erptech

Joined: 15.03.2008

Posts: 662

19.07.2009, 14:40 0

[x] Hand butchered.

edit:
and some of the reasons,

why would you assume MP will only continue with KK+?
why not raise flop to protect your overpair?

If you want to win, you must not fail.

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Becks777

Joined: 04.03.2006

Posts: 641

19.07.2009, 15:19 0

Originally posted by erptech
[x] Hand butchered.

edit:
and some of the reasons,

why would you assume MP will only continue with KK+?
why not raise flop to protect your overpair?

I explained my thoghts below the hand.
What should i protect from on the flop?
Overcards have 6 outs.

Snodreliss

Joined: 23.12.2007

Posts: 1,281

19.07.2009, 21:45 0

Why do you call 3bet without expecting to be ahead?

I call pf and ship low flop. Easy.

Becks777

Joined: 04.03.2006

Posts: 641

20.07.2009, 11:55 0

I expect to be ahead against his 3betting range. But not against his shoving range after my 4bet. So idont´t want to 4bet/fold QQ.
Shipping flop for value against JJ TT is possible.

TribunCaesar

Joined: 29.04.2007

Posts: 5,548

21.07.2009, 14:28 0

I don't like preflop all that much, but if we go with your assumptions it's ok. I am raising on the flop though, the pot is already pretty big and he is probably not folding TT or JJ. If the fish hit the board he is not folding as well. As played the fold is good.

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