[Closed] A9s nl200

without special reads and 31 hands i fold preflop?!

on the flop folding is the better option, i guess.

But if he had 41/16 after 40 hands he don`t pretend to be TAG I think isolate this type of loose player is good option.

Originally posted by Gonzo394
without special reads and 31 hands i fold preflop?!

Lol, he's 42/16. Quite obviously super loose even with only 31 hands. I like the MP3 ISO against this guy.

Flop we have just GS + high cards, possibly discounted. I think I look for a reason to not fold in his postflop stats but if I see no marked reasons to call I just lay this one down for now.

i fold it preflop too.

The thing is that with 30 hands I can't know how often he limp/folds and how often he folds to cbets.

Plus: Even if you hit your A, you most often win with the cbet or pay out a better ace. (if he's not limp/calling any Ax and - as i said - you can't know that here).

Of course you could argue, that against this type of player in general folds so often to cbets, that alone by cbetting any flop against him you make profit.

But then again, you could make the very same play with 72o.

btw: it's just a notch argument anyway, I would certainly isolate with ATs, but that's because I feel that I dominate some TX-broadways in this player-type's limp/calling-range.

So whats stats u have?

standard 8/8 ?

10/10. you?

Originally posted by Gonzo394
The thing is that with 30 hands I can't know how often he limp/folds and how often he folds to cbets. abc-valuepoker against the unknown fish

Plus: Even if you hit your A, you most often win with the cbet or pay out a better ace. (if he's not limp/calling any Ax and - as i said - you can't know that here). he'll also gives us money with 2nd pair and draws

Of course you could argue, that against this type of player in general folds so often to cbets, that alone by cbetting any flop against him you make profit.
But then again, you could make the very same play with 72o. ???

btw: it's just a notch argument anyway, I would certainly isolate with ATs, but that's because I feel that I dominate some TX-broadways in this player-type's limp/calling-range.

overall it's preflop really close and depends also on the other players behind us
so it's not a standart iso.

i'd isoraise in this spot and push the flop

Create yourself a database and we have more information

I'd fold pre

As played, I instant shove it though your ev is marginal because you have unknown parameters

- Gerv

Originally posted by Gonzo394
10/10. you?

12/12

Originally posted by PanDuzePE

Originally posted by Gonzo394
10/10. you?

12/12

so who has the biggest?

Originally posted by goldflair03

Originally posted by PanDuzePE

Originally posted by Gonzo394
10/10. you?

12/12

so who has the biggest?

the biggest pfr? obv. he has.

and it's good to know because with that information i can give better advice to the hands he posts here.

Originally posted by goldflair03

Originally posted by PanDuzePE

Originally posted by Gonzo394
10/10. you?

12/12

so who has the biggest?

pffff

@panduzepe
how do you mange to post HM-hands?
all sites i tried didnt accept the format

If u copy hand 'live' u don`t need to convert. If u viewing later in holdem u must convert throught

http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Originally posted by goldflair03
@panduzepe
how do you mange to post HM-hands?
all sites i tried didnt accept the format

I use HM and I prefer this converter;

http://www.handconverter.com/

HM has its own converter.

with HM i click "replay hand" and in the HM replayer i click "hand history" and there i click on "2+2". then i paste it here -> done.

I fold pre too. I definitely like the iso against this opponent and imo, A9s is a good enough hand to do it with, but I'd rather have fewer players behind me since we have to fold to any 3bet behind us.