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[Closed] NL50 KQo

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Fongie
Joined: 02.12.2006

Relevant notes:
- cbet 4.5 into 8 and fold to raise on 728ss board in 3bet pot (he pfr)
- cbet pot and fold to 3x raise on J64ss board

The guy was a fish, but neither maniac nor loose passive just bad at mostly everything, but trying to play like a reg. I thought I had fold equity with the shove at the time, but it doesn't matter much.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
Hero ($55.60)
($47.40)

Dealt to Hero Q♠ K♥

raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

FLOP ($3) 4♦ T♣ J♦

Hero checks, bets $3, Hero raises to $9.50, raises to $18.75, Hero raises to $54.10 (AI), calls $27.15 (AI)

TURN ($94.80) 4♦ T♣ J♦ 7♠

RIVER ($94.80) 4♦ T♣ J♦ 7♠ 4♥

Do you think I often have my overcard outs here? Do you think I have enough equity to shove?


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I gave him quite tight range (of course it is assumption cause I don't know his PFR and stuff, but after his 3-bet that range looks quite plausible and after his 3-bet you have to start thinking wether you want to ship this hand or not.

Board: Jd Tc 4d
Dead:

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 56,337% 56,337% 0,000% 43,663% KhQs
Player 2: 43,663% 43,663% 0,000% 56,337% AA, AdJd, AdTd, Ad4d, JTs, 98s, J9o+, J4o, 98o, 63o-62o

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I didn't give like AQs to him bcs you already have Q and it's unlikely that he has it as well (but I added AKs, cause there still is some chance he has it).

Against this range you have pretty good equity so I would ship it.


swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

Originally posted by timukasr
AA, AdJd, AdTd, Ad4d, JTs, 98s, J9o+, J4o, 98o, 63o-62o

wtf @ parts in bold.

Also, you include J4o but not J4s? JTs but not JTo? You may want to rework that range a tad.


Roflmao, you are right and I suck at it. 63o-62o is added to put bluff into his range.


ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008

Originally posted by swissmoumout

Originally posted by timukasr
AA, AdJd, AdTd, Ad4d, JTs, 98s, J9o+, J4o, 98o, 63o-62o

wtf @ parts in bold.

Also, you include J4o but not J4s? JTs but not JTo? You may want to rework that range a tad.

that's the worst range i ever saw timu


excelgeo
Joined: 17.10.2008

Originally posted by timukasr
I gave him quite tight range (of course it is assumption cause I don't know his PFR and stuff, but after his 3-bet that range looks quite plausible and after his 3-bet you have to start thinking wether you want to ship this hand or not.

Board: Jd Tc 4d
Dead:

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 56,337% 56,337% 0,000% 43,663% KhQs
Player 2: 43,663% 43,663% 0,000% 56,337% AA, AdJd, AdTd, Ad4d, JTs, 98s, J9o+, J4o, 98o, 63o-62o

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I didn't give like AQs to him bcs you already have Q and it's unlikely that he has it as well (but I added AKs, cause there still is some chance he has it).

Against this range you have pretty good equity so I would ship it.

ah the standard 63o raise

on a serious note, his cbet is less than the pot. here he bets pot. i say you raise him only a little, maybe $8 and play b/f. this way, if he is not really strong, you get cheap turn and you freeze action on turn.

tbh, i dont think he has anything less than TPTK, or AKd. Which at best gives you 13 outs (overcards and openended straight for TPTK that are not diamonds) at worse you are against jj and AdKd you have 8. therefore i dont think you can shove

ps read my disclaimer


Fongie
Joined: 02.12.2006

Alright guys! I think it's a pretty standard broke-spot tbh. He had 9d8d btw, not that it matters much :) probably the best hand I could be up against (which still beat me :P)


excelgeo
Joined: 17.10.2008

well he did have 19 outs and whats most important is that you could not have known that.


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