[Closed] I keep loosing and loosing...

1) Good, but tough laydown I think. His line doesn't make too much sense to me, which generally makes me want to call here, but I think you'll rarely beat him due to his stats (low AF, low WTS, low C/R).

2) I guess he'll have AT very often there, but for 2:11.25 for a calldown, I'm just not gonna fold that.

3) Nice fold with the read. You don't really beat anything here anymore, as I don't think he'll raise pocket pairs below Q here then.

4) Equity analysis says nice fold, even if I add some monsterdraws

Player 1: 5,952 % 4,762 % 2,381 % 92,857 % Ad5s
Player 2: 94,048 % 92,857 % 2,381 % 4,762 % A5s,A9+,TT,99,55,QdJd,Jd8d

And I can't see him 3-bet with an ace with worse kicker there than 9 there.

5) Absurd WTS stat over such a sample, but I can't fold that one - could be a raise for freeshowdown with some draw or other pocket pair or whatever.

6) Madness, but standard.

7) Against this nit I think calling turn is better indeed. Too large chance that he'll already have a better hand anyway and you don't have an easy fold against a 3-bet.

PS: I'm a break even (after rakeback) $2/4 player myself over a 100K sample by now, so don't listen to me! ♦ Nah but seriously I hope to improve my game a bit by commenting and thinking about hands posted here, and at the same time laugh at your petty luck which looks a lot like mine. Oh wait I didn't mean to say that last stuff, but it's true nevertheless. ♠_evil:

Originally posted by DukeFreedom

7) Against this nit I think calling turn is better indeed. Too large chance that he'll already have a better hand anyway and you don't have an easy fold against a 3-bet.

Hi duke!, in the hand 7) I have the equity to raise for value. Was a raise/call turn, fold river UI.

Jugadores 1: 42,225 % 88+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+
Jugadores 2: 57,775 % JhTs

With 44% WTS he does the calldown with A high, that's why I raise turn.
Versus a villain with a lower WTS I just calldown.

Hi Confeti.

1) I like the fold as well. He can't expect you to fold after so much action and he doesn't look like a maniac so you can make this fold.

2) I see him often slowplaying a 2 here but I can't fold this either.

3) With that read I like it. Even without that you could fold as he is a pretty passive TAG. if you think he may play an 8 that way then make the call.

4) You only beat a busted draw so I like the fold as well.

5) Hmm such a low wts is weird so I think a turn fold is not too bad. If he would raise often for a free showdown his wts would be higher. So he might play them passive, calls the turn only and fold the river unimproved.
Against such a low you may even just stay passive to not make him fold A-high (I don't know if that's worth it because you don't protect well that way).

6) On the turn you have outs against AQ and AJ and on the river AQ and AJ become less likely so you may be able to make the crying call.

Board: As Ac Qc Jh 6c
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 10.000 % 0.000 % 20.000 % 80.000 % AhKd
Spieler 2: 90.000 % 80.000 % 20.000 % 0.000 % AA, QQ-JJ, AJs+, AJo+

So you need 10:1 and you get 9,25:1. Hmm so that means you should fold the river.
Nothing I could do at the table but if he is a reasonable TAG then you can fold here.

7) The raise is not that bad. Sure his range is pretty tight But as Confeti posted you have enough equity to do so. Against 44% wts you don't know 66% as he may call worse hands and a 3-bet from him is indeed a pretty easy fold for me. (After ~1200 you may even have a better read on him. :))

Board: Tc 8s 6c 2d
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 7.576 % 7.576 % 0.000 % 92.424 % JhTs
Spieler 2: 92.424 % 92.424 % 0.000 % 7.576 % TT+, 88, 66, ATs, ATo

You may add some draws but they are very unlikely and don't change the result that much.

Board: Th Tc 8s 6c 2d
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 67.742 % 67.742 % 0.000 % 32.258 % JhTs
Spieler 2: 32.258 % 32.258 % 0.000 % 67.742 % TT+, 88, 66, ATs, ATo

Pretty nice equityboost. ♦ But as you would have folded on the turn it doesn't matter that much.

@DukeFreedom: Nice to have another FL player here. I hope you enjoy your time here.

Originally posted by Confeti
Today was devastating, I start winning +302, and finish the session loosing -100 . I can't believe what unlucky I am. That really hurts... and I never play on tilt.

1) AF river: 1.1

C/R turn: 20%

May be is a bad fold, but I showed a lot of strenght pfr and turn, and he C/R the river. I don't see any worse hand here.

I make calldowns with A high vs him, so he know that I didn't fold better hands here.

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;MP3$77,32:480/31 /26 /1,6/34 /35 /32 /49 ;Hero$161,75:///////;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♥, Q♣
MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, MP3 calls.

Flop: (7,50 SB) 4♠, J♦, 2♦ (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4,75 BB) 6♠ (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP3 calls.

River: (10,75 BB) K♦ (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 13,75 BB

Q:U KNOW WHAT HE HAD THERE???
A: IMO K♠ J♠
i would check that river

2) CAn I fold?

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB$79,50:100/25 /10 /1,1/40 /25 /100 /75 ;Hero$92,00:///////;BU$138,56:1.273/19 /14 /2,5/34 /30 /71 /49 ;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J♣, A♣
5 folds, Hero raises, CO folds, BU 3-bets, SB folds, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9,50 SB) A♠, 2♠, 2♥ (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BU bets, BB calls, Hero raises, BU folds, BB calls.

Turn: (7,25 BB) T♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

River: (11,25 BB) 3♠ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13,25 BB

I'M CHEKING TURN HERE, CALING ANY RIVER, OR BETING IF IS IT CHECK TO ME ON RIVER. imo AQ, AK, beats me, ATs got therei t beats me to, TT beats me, A2 beats me and if he calls with flush draw he have only 18% chances to win (but he wont call 3bet OOP and bet on flop with less than K :spade:Q :spade:) and if he calls with PP he got only 4% to hit his pocket on river

3) He always raises TP on the flop

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$136,74:///////;MP2$147,50:84/71 /5 /0,7/46 /0 /17 /31 ;MP3$86,25:79/22 /19 /4,2/50 /9 /67 /67 ;CO$133,25:660/25 /20 /1,5/41 /31 /54 /49 ;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♦, A♥
MP2 calls, MP3 raises, CO 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: (11,50 SB) 8♥, 3♣, Q♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

Turn: (8,75 BB) 7♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (10,75 BB) Q♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 13,75 BB

WITH THAT READ I NEVER BET FOLD RIVER, I C/C OR C/F with AA c/c

4) FUCKING RIVER

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$6,00:04/75 /0 /2,0/67 /0 /-/0 ;Hero$131,25:///////;CO$84,87:503/24 /21 /2,2/46 /26 /65 /42 ;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♦, 5♠
2 folds, CO raises, BU folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6,00 SB) T♦, 5♦, 9♣ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4,00 BB) A♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, Hero caps, CO calls.

River: (12,00 BB) 9♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 13,00 BB

NO!! thats sick but i'm not folding river here. I MIGHT FOLD PREFLOP 70% OR ON FLOP 80%, but not on river c/c although u can beat only busted flush but afer i invested so much $$ with that shity hand he can have 4$ more
5) Fold turn???

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$100,25:///////;MP3$85,50:944/22 /19 /2,6/25 /29 /67 /53 ;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8♦, Q♦
MP2 folds, MP3 raises, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4,50 SB) T♠, T♣, Q♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4,25 BB) 5♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls.

River: (8,25 BB) 2♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10,25 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows dos pares, damas y dieces (8d Qd)
MP3 shows full house, cincos sobre dieces (5c 5d)

MP3 wins with full house, cincos sobre dieces (5c 5d)

c/c, c/c, c/c all the way

6) Same question, fold turn? I know is a calldown, but I don't understand why I'm loosing so much

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB$240,25:46/24 /13 /4,3/56 /30 /50 /100 ;Hero$130,41:///////;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A♥, K♦
MP2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Flop: (8,50 SB) A♠, Q♣, J♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (6,25 BB) 6♣ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (8,25 BB) A♣ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10,25 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows trío, ases (Ah Kd)
BB shows full house, jotas sobre ases (Js Jd)

BB wins with full house, jotas sobre ases (Js Jd)

cooler

7) AHHHHHHHHGGGG call turn for odds & outs and raise river??? PLEASE tell me that I play it like a fish!!

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB$142,50:1.260/18 /10 /1,2/44 /20 /45 /55 ;Hero$145,02:///////;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.69 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with J♥, T♠
MP3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (6,50 SB) 8♠, 2♦, T♣ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4,25 BB) 6♣ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

River: (10,25 BB) T♥ (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Final Pot: 14,25 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows trío, dieces (Jh Ts)
BB shows full house, ochos sobre dieces (8d 8c)

BB wins with full house, ochos sobre dieces (8d 8c)
LOL HE JUST CALLS U WITH NUTS ON RIVER HE SAVES U 4$ OR 8$ HEHEHE, HE MIGHT THINK U HAVE TT THIS IS SO FUNNY ♦
prf standard imo, i'm rasing flop , beting turn, call 3 bet an then just call river, any river couse when that T on river hits and guy bets out into u I dont think that he will call river raise with worse hand than TJ

1) Yeah you knew that before he check/raised the river.

2) He can have almost any flushdraw here. He just called preflop and on the flop. A better A is very unlikely because of that too.

3) With a read that he always raises TOPPAIR you wouldn't fold here? I really don't understand that. :/
"I C/C OR C/F with AA c/c" what do you mean?

4) 70% folding preflop and 80% on the flop? No way you have enough equity to call here almost 100%.
River is close but he raised preflop so there aren't that many draws in his range that he would play that aggressive after we check/raised the turn.

5) Yep both lines are possible.

Meh sorry I hope I wasn't too rude. Pretty hard to read. Another good reason why 1 hand per thread is best. ♦

Originally posted by ciRith
Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 10.000 % 0.000 % 20.000 % 80.000 % AhKd
Spieler 2: 90.000 % 80.000 % 20.000 % 0.000 % AA, QQ-JJ, AJs+, AJo+

So you need 10:1 and you get 9,25:1. Hmm so that means you should fold the river.
Nothing I could do at the table but if he is a reasonable TAG then you can fold here.

Actually you only need 9:1 which makes it a call.

Throw in the rake, and it doesn't matter whether you call or fold. ♦