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[Closed] 0.15/0.30 AJ on QJ6 flop vs PF raiser

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Phisherman
Joined: 06.04.2007

0,15/0,30 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.8 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J♠, A♥. UTG+2 posts a blind of $0,15.
2 folds, UTG+2 checks, MP1 folds, MP2 raises, Hero calls, 4 folds, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (7,47 SB) J♦, 6♥, Q♥ (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets, Hero raises, UTG+2 folds, MP2 3-bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (6,73 BB) J♥ (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets, Hero caps, MP2 calls.

River: (14,73 BB) 7♦ (2 players)
MP2 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16,73 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows [ Js, Ah ] three of a kind, Jacks
MP2 shows [ Qc, Qd ] a full house, Queens full of Jacks
MP2 wins $4.77 USD with a full house, Queens full of Jacks.

should i fold on the flop 3bet ? should i just call the flop ? what about the other streets


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Wow much action here. ;)

Flop is ok you have to call the 3-bet because you get enogh potodds for a call.
I think you should just call the flop 3-bet because I see 4 possible hands and you only beat 2 and even improved you don't beat the other two.

You beat AQ and KJ.
You loose to QJ and QQ.

But QJ and QQ are more ikely due to the action because KJ would probably not play this wa y on the flop and AQ woldn't 3-bet the turn so I calldown even improvved to the flush. I only raise the river if I catch a J or A and 3bet with the J (if possible) and just call a raise with the A.

EDIT: Pleae don't post results because they just might influenze the comments. (That's why I lookwed at them after writing my comment. :) )


Phisherman
Joined: 06.04.2007
fdwarrior
Joined: 25.12.2006

i dont like pfr cold call, 3-bet or fold
we have to call flop 3-bet because potodds are 12:1 and we have ~5 outs
i would just call down after villain 3-bet, he may overplayed AA,KK,AQ,KQ,QT and some random hand but u loose to 66,QQ,QJ


Phisherman
Joined: 06.04.2007

raise from his position with 66 is not really probable
and i don't think AJ is enough for a 3bet here, cold call seemed fine...
cirith ?


66 is not the most likely holding but of course possible.

And fdwarrior is right better just fold it preflop (don't 3-bet or coldcall)
AJo is often dominated to be 3-bet and doesn't play very well in a multiway pot.

Later on you will see that AJo is one of the hands which have to be played very cautiouly because it really does look very good but it isn't.


fdwarrior
Joined: 25.12.2006

66 is an OR from MP2, isn't it ?
if villains pfr > 12% i 3-bet in this situation


Phisherman
Joined: 06.04.2007

sry, what's an OR ?


OR means Open Raise.

In this case there is some extra dead money in the pot because UTG+2 wasn't patient enough to wait for the big blind and posted a blind, so I'm not sure that MP2's preflop raise actually *is* an Open Raise.


Phisherman
Joined: 06.04.2007

thx for clearing that up Classical, and yea indeed there was UTG+2 already in the pot