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Fongie
Joined: 02.12.2006

Villain 21/15
54fCB 30 WTSD 5k hands

Turn bet was for thin value vs lower pockets, but river? good spot to turn it into a bluff to win the pot against TT and 99 too or is it best to cb?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($100)
BB ($105)
Hero ($108)
CO ($88.30)
BTN ($19.05)

Dealt to Hero 8♠ 9♠

Hero raises to $3, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $2

FLOP ($6.50) 5♦ 4♥ 8♣

BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

TURN ($14.50) 5♦ 4♥ 8♣ J♥

BB checks, Hero bets $7, BB calls $7

RIVER ($28.50) 5♦ 4♥ 8♣ J♥ A♦

BB checks, Hero bets $20


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Turn is a little thin but I'm fine with it, 22/33 may call again, and 66/77 has a gutter which we might want to protect against.

Just check/fold river, we might not get TT/99 to fold and we already have one of the 9s, so I think we are going to value own ourselves.


Fongie Topic starter
Fongie
Joined: 02.12.2006

Wtf? What hand can I valuetown myself against... and how can I c/f ip? :f_p:


TheLastNail
Joined: 30.05.2008

i dont like the turn bet sizing.. now u want to bet for esp 1 of 2 reasons: 1, value to have free showdown on riv 2, planning on turning hand into bluff a ton of the time coz its not so often good if u get c/c 2x by this plr /and prolly preferable also coz of your perceived range as utg pfa is more strong than weak so u ll likely get credit/

the last thing u want is c/r on turn and u re literally inviting him to do it..

as standard with normal image vs unknown or apparently abc plr betting both turn and river /but normalsized bets/ is the best imo, tho vs stations and good plrs just bet turn and cbeh riv coz they wont fold 8T+


Fongie Topic starter
Fongie
Joined: 02.12.2006

Yeah, I think it looks weird here because HEM doesn't display the potsize as it's displayed in FTP on the table (rake).. potsize looks like 13.5 on the table and I want to bet half pot - maybe I should add a dollar or two everytime as a standard


mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

I meant checkbehind if checked to and fold to a bet.

Anyway I guess a river bet would be as a bluff, certainly not for value


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by Fongie
Yeah, I think it looks weird here because HEM doesn't display the potsize as it's displayed in FTP on the table (rake).. potsize looks like 13.5 on the table and I want to bet half pot - maybe I should add a dollar or two everytime as a standard

I'd still make it $5 on the flop and as played $11 on the turn.

If you don't want to bet the turn you have to give up, but i think it's a nice spot to go for a 3barrel because you get him to fold 99/TT most of the time by the river as well as any 8x he could have.

And he almost never has a good hand in this spot because he'd be checkraising the flop or at least the turn.


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