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1) 0,15/0,30 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.8 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A♠, 7♠
3 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, BU calls, SB folds, BB raises, MP1 calls, Hero calls, BU calls.

Flop: (8,47 SB) 5♣, 7♦, 9♠ (4 players)
BB bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls, BU folds.

Turn: (5,73 BB) 5♠ (3 players)
BB bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (8,73 BB) 7♥ (3 players)
BB bets, MP1 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Final Pot: 12,73 BB

2) 0,15/0,30 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.8 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A♥, J♦. UTG+2 posts a blind of $0,15.
UTG+2 checks, MP1 folds, Hero raises, MP3 3-bets, CO folds, BU calls, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (13,47 SB) J♥, 5♠, 6♠ (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, BU calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

3-bet flop for value (and lead turn)?
Turn: (10,73 BB) T♥ (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets, BU calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (14,73 BB) K♦ (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, BU bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero folds, MP3 calls.

Fold too weak? I don't see chance that I'm ahead but the pot is huge.
Final Pot: 17,73 BB

3) 0,15/0,30 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.8 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K♠, K♣
3 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, SB 3-bets, BB calls, Hero caps, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12,00 SB) 8♥, 6♥, A♦ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7,50 BB) 5♠ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds.

River: (9,50 BB) 4♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Is it really a value bet?
Final Pot: 11,50 BB

4) 0,15/0,30 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.8 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T♠, K♠
3 folds, Hero calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, BU calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4,47 SB) A♥, Q♠, T♥ (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, BU checks.

Turn: (2,23 BB) 9♥ (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, BU checks.

River: (2,23 BB) 5♣ (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, BU bets, BB folds, Hero calls, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: 4,23 BB


5 replies
Berliner1982
Joined: 12.07.2006

Hand 1.)
I would raise the Turn here. You have a made hand which often beats the Preflop Raiser. But if he helds an Overpair, you still have outs for your Flush or Full House, so that you could even call a 3-Bet on the Turn from Villian after you raised.
And believe on the River you get no Value from Overcards, but maybe from an Overpair.

Hand 2.)
Thats a very tough hand.

MP3 would only 3-bet here with 99+, AK, maybe AQ (a total of 8 hands). On the Flop we only beat AK, AQ, TT and 99 (so 50% of his hands he 3-bettet). But their are 2 more coldcallers who often hold a low or medium Pocketpair (55 - 99), and on the Flop we would be way behind against 55 and 66. That UTG and the BU Cold Call the Raise on the Flop would concern me. So you have no 3-Bet for Value here, thats for sure.

On the Turn you would be also behind TT, you might have 1,5 Out in Total (maybe the Jack is good, maybe the Ace is good). And UTG and BU still call.

On the River BU bets, after MP3 checks (I would but him on QQ now) UTG still calls. I guess you have to call, but I see no hand you beat here (but on these limits their are so many bad players ... who knows).

Maybe you can consider to fold on the Turn here.

Hand 3.)
Sure you have a Valuebet on the River. SB will hold TT, JJ, QQ, KK. I doubt that he had AK or AA, otherwise he would have raised somewhere on the Flop or the Turn or donked on the River. And I doubt as well that he 3 bettet Preflop with 77 or any other hand that gives him a straight.

Hand 4.)
Ok, I think.


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Thanks for the elaborate comments. :)


1) He shows much strength here and I don't think he would bet the turn again vs overcards only.
I like the hand the way you played it.

2) I like the donk very much. A 3-bet would be overplayed (as Berliner already said). I think we can call the turn because we are last to act and get 15:1 which is really much. Folding tptk would be really a tough fold.

EDIT(many edits ^^): But lets calculate it. :)

Range preflop: - AQo+, AJs+, 99+

Range flop: - AQo+, AJs+, 99(?), TT(?), JJ+

Range turn: - AQo+(?), AQs+(?), AJs, TT+

A range with (?) has to be discussed. If he isn't on tilt or rather passive I wouldn't calculate with them.
I count AJs in as well because UTG+2 posted preflop and because I don't know how he plays postflop I do two calculations. If we call the turn we only fold if the river is a 4, 5, :spade: or if a raising war starts.

a) Rather passive turn range: JJ+, AJs (TT would only call the turn if he is passive)

JJ = 0 outs, hand count = 1

AA = 2 outs discounted to 1 because of the flush draw etc, hand count = 6

QQ,KK = 5 outs discounted to 3 because of the flush draw etc, hand count = 12

AJs = split, hand count 2 (it can only be A :heart: J :heart:, A :diamond: J :diamond:, A :spade: J :spade: or A :club: J :club: and we hold the A :heart: and the J :diamond: so only :spade: and :club: is possible.)

Now we can calculate our total outs:

(0*1+2*6+3*12+2)/19 ~= 2,632 outs.

We get 15:1 and so need around 3 outs.

We can now calulate our iimplied odds but with all the redraws etc I think it is around +-0 and won't effect our decision.

b) Aggressive turn range: AQo+, AJs+, TT+

TT, JJ = 0 outs, hand count = 4

AQo, AKo (suite doesn't matter because he plays both in the same way) = ahead, hand count = 2*21 = 41

QQ+, AJs same as above.

Now we can calculate our total outs:

(0*4+2*6+3*12+2+41)/24 ~= 3,792 outs.

Here we have enough out to call for 15:1.

If we say that villain is a mixture of a) and b) we have (2,632+3,792)/2 = 3,212 outs.

I'm not very experienced with these kind of calculations and did them all on intuition basis. If you find mistakes please let me know. :)

3) #2 Berliner

4) Hmm the pot is small but the call should be ok. On the flop they tell you that nobody has an ace. On the turn they tell you that nobody has a straight or flush but maybe a Q fears a flush now and won't bet. You only need to win it once in 3 times and I think that'ds enough to call here.


Berliner1982
Joined: 12.07.2006

@ciRith

Hand 2.)
I´m not so much into Calculations as well, but I would not put AJs in his handrange (neither in Calculation a.) or b.)

His only possible hand range for me according to his Flop Play:
JJ, QQ, KK, AA (tight)
TT, JJ. QQ, KK, AA (loose)


That is too tight in my opinion. I myself would raise AJs from MP3 vs MP2 (3-bet vs ORC it's a 3-bet with ATs+ and UTG+2 posted so the raise from MP2 is nearly an open raise for me)
Additionally I would raise AQ+ on the flop.

I think you mean after his turn action right? The AQ+ is very questionable then but b) is more a LAG or a TAG on tilt so I think a bet is possible here. A normal TAG is more likely a).


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