[Closed] NL100SH from Handevaluation-coaching

First scenario:
In BBs position i'd never coldcall any hand because it's basically impossible to balance the callingrange in this spot and it's also a good opportunity to 4bet against a light 3bettor because you collect tons of dead money and get your money in flipping vs a worst-case range (and if the range is that tight you have more foldequity).
Also as you said you're playing OOP in a likely 3way pot and it will be hard to get value from worse hands while there's little you can do on K-high and A-high flops.

Once someone calls there (especially if he's a reg) it's QQ+,AK (i feel like AK 4bets more often than QQ+ though) most of the time.
Some players also call JJ and AQ, but i can't recall the last time i saw a reg calling with TT or worse.

Having said that I think it's an easy spot for hero to check back the flop and just give up since BB's range is so strong.

Btw i think if he's bad enough to call KQ preflop there's no way you get him off of top pair.

Second scenario:
Since I wouldn't 3bet a loose/passive player with A4o I assume the opponent is some kind of reg (or at least reasonable player).
Vs an unknown reg (i.e. no further history or reads, just some basic stats over 20-100 hands) i usually check and give up because i don't know what he's calling OOP and a cbet is usually not +EV because Q-high boards hit the majority of the default-callingranges in this spot, particularly AQ and KQ, rarely QJs and KK+.
AK almost never gets called OOP and TT+ also 4bets most of the time.

AQ alone has 9 combos (since we have an A), even if the opponent only calls KQs that are 3 combinations, so he would need to call JJ and TT 30% of the time preflop AND give up with them.

I wouldn't multibarrel because I think he will never fold top pair (he's either planning on calling 3 streets or check/raising the turn) but he's folding JJ and TT sometimes on the flop and he's obviously folding all worse hands on the flop (especially all of his air).

So by multibarreling you're valuebetting for him since his Qx-combinations are a lot more than his JJ and worse pair- combinations.

Btw: we didn't even consider his KK+ -combinations yet.

One thing to notice is that you don't need to cbet to make the hand +EV, you 3bet A4o due to it's preflop-foldequity and therefore you can easily give up on flops like this on which the opponent just doesn't fold often enough to make it +EV to bet.

Ty first of all

1: It seems i'm kinda missreading BBs Range in the first scenario since most ppl i talked to basically agreed about the range with what you said. Personally i wouldnt flat there as well but i expected people to somewhat have a wider + weaker range. this appears now to be wrong. vs the range you describe there we obv. cant bluff profitably.

2: I still dont like giving up here but i agree that at least without further info we prolly just cant play this spot postflop profitably at all.

still you are perfectly right about us not beeing in the need to cbet like everywhere since 3betting such crap as A4o wouldnt be right if we havent had enough foldequity to just 3bet the hand assuming our postflop-ev is like neutral.

Originally posted by hasenbraten
Ty first of all

1: It seems i'm kinda missreading BBs Range in the first scenario since most ppl i talked to basically agreed about the range with what you said. Personally i wouldnt flat there as well but i expected people to somewhat have a wider + weaker range. this appears now to be wrong. vs the range you describe there we obv. cant bluff profitably.

2: I still dont like giving up here but i agree that at least without further info we prolly just cant play this spot postflop profitably at all.

still you are perfectly right about us not beeing in the need to cbet like everywhere since 3betting such crap as A4o wouldnt be right if we havent had enough foldequity to just 3bet the hand assuming our postflop-ev is like neutral.

1) It's player dependent, if he wasn't a reg (i.e. a looser player, in my Head I mark every player with "normal" stats from 18/16 to 24/21 as "reg") I would also assume his range is wider and cbet to take the pot down.
But i think most regs on NL100 either consider a 3bet as strong and fold-or-4bet all of their hands or they don't consider it as that strong but are afraid of 4betting and still 4bet-or-fold.

2) I also don't think it's very pretty to just give up there, but once you 3bet A4o it's because CO folds a lot to 3bets - therefore once he calls or even 4bets he has a very strong range, there's just nothing you can do against it on this board.