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[Closed] NL100 97s

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Fongie
Joined: 02.12.2006

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($136)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($116)
CO ($99.50)
BTN ($107)

Dealt to Hero 9♠ 7♠

fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

FLOP ($6) A♠ J♠ 3♣

SB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

TURN ($15) A♠ J♠ 3♣ A♣

SB bets $11.50, Hero raises to $34,

Hm, not sure about this. Still trying to "experiment" with raising draws on the turn rather than on the flop, but this is a little bit of a dodgy situation to do so with the ace pairing... what do you think?

Villain: 20/16 230 hands 40%sbATS 55%cbet 2/2cbet turn


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HannesNL
Joined: 19.11.2008

The turnraise is not a good spot because of the ace. I would 100% of the time call, and bet if he checks to you on the river, if the flush arrives on river you can raise the guy.


mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

I fold turn. The pairing will discout many of our flush outs and we only have one more street. calling is a small mistake IMO and raising is a huge mistake. I expect to get shoved on a huge % of the time by AX.


HannesNL
Joined: 19.11.2008

Originally posted by mbml
I fold turn. The pairing will discout many of our flush outs and we only have one more street. calling is a small mistake IMO and raising is a huge mistake. I expect to get shoved on a huge % of the time by AX.

Noway, you never get shoved by any Ax.

And I do not agree with you at all. Villain COULD be bluffing, so a call on the turn is imo the best option. Villain would rarely 3betbluff on an AxxAx board. So you have the opportunity to steal the pot when he decides to give up his bluff. And you have the opportunity to draw to your outs.

I think raising IS a huge mistake, but I prefer calling over folding. And if you spike the river, you just raise/fold the river.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Hm i think at the table i might call but i think a fold could actually be the best play on the turn.
You need ~4:1 odds and only get ~2.4:1.
You likely have no (or at least not much) implied odds because he's either bet/folding some medium strength hand or with Ax most of the time.
The A is a bad card to 2nd barrel with air so i assume most of the time he's npt going to do it.
But even if he does you're likely behind against his air since you only have 9 high and he raised OOP.

If you hit your flush Ax is either bet/folding or maybe even check/folding - so if he bets the river you can't raise him profitably and therefore have to call, he ill still sometimes have a full house.

If you plan on betting a blank river i think you'll also lose some money because on a board like this he could easily be bet/folding the turn with the plan to c/c the river against your draws.

So i think it's a close fold on the turn, as long as i have no further information.
Even some minor reads might change the decision pretty quickly to a call or even a raise on the turn.