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[Closed] $22; AQs with villain min donking

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i hate these fishy donks but how to play against them? i figure hes min-donking with a flush draw or weak pair which hes not folding on the flop, so i call flop.

is a 3bet turn to 375-400ish an option? then fold to action unimproved?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 24 Tournament, 40/80 Blinds (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 (t665)
Hero (CO) (t1360)
Button (t3045)
SB (t1610)
BB (t1410)
UTG (t2115)
UTG+1 (t1975)
MP1 (t1320)

Hero's M: 11.33

Preflop: Hero is CO with A, Q
4 folds, Hero bets t200, 2 folds, BB calls t120

Flop: (t440) 3, 6, 9 (2 players)
BB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t600) 6 (2 players)
BB bets t80, Hero calls t80

River: (t760) J (2 players)
BB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Total pot: t920


3 replies
Chester20o
Joined: 17.06.2009

i fold here on turn. you have odds but with Ahigh and his fishy 2nd barrel i don't wana to give him extra chips with bottom pair.


Unam
Joined: 17.08.2006

I couldn't fold that, flop and turn we have outs, and the river is so cheap. :(


Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

i hate these fishy donks but how to play against them?

Me too. As you say, often it's a pair trying to get to showdown cheaply or a monster trying to extract value or (more than 50%) a draw trying to give himself the right odds to draw by discouraging you from betting an amount that would make a call from him a mistake.

Ok, so obvious enough - how to play? If villain has a pair we have 13.3% equity on the flop which makes the call fine. And for the same reason the turn call is good too. I might save myself 80 chips on the river, but that's prolly a mistake since you get such good odds. Well, I virtually never see myself ahead on this river so a fold is fine. But, when you call, you get some info about how fish play and what with.

As to the 3bet, I think it's too marginal without reads. He might well fold the c1/3 of the time we need to make this a profitable chipEV play but when he doesn't and we don't hit, we make life appreciably harder for ourselves in the rest of the tourney. I don't think this turn card is one we can rep either - a non :spade: K would be better