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[Closed] nl100sh i feel lost in 3way pot

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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($122)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($107)
UTG+1 ($98.50)
CO ($366)
BTN ($174)

Dealt to Hero 7♦ 8♦

fold, UTG+1 raises to $3, CO calls $3, fold, fold, Hero calls $2

FLOP ($9.50) A♦ T♣ 6♥

Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks

TURN ($9.50) A♦ T♣ 6♥ 5♦

Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $9.50, CO calls $9.50, Hero calls $9.50

RIVER ($38) A♦ T♣ 6♥ 5♦ 6♦

Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets $27, Hero calls $27, UTG+1 folds

boths villains are very good winning regulars. i was really suprized by the potbet on the turn and then the call from the other reg. on the river i felt i am always behind but decided to call.

do u think i can shove the turn and take my equity?


7 replies
Becks777
Joined: 04.03.2006

After the flop gets checked around i´m donking 100 % on this turn card. U have Equity + Foldequity to semibluff. I think c/c is the worst option. River is a must call. Imo u can never fold.


Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

I agree with Becks on the Turn

As played River is never a muck, maybe opting for a raise but I think it's too thin given the way it goes on the Flop

- Gerv


well my plan for the flop was to c/r, and therefore i decided to stick with my plan on the turn as well. then i was kinda scared from the potbet+ call and that is why i called.


Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

Sometimes sticking with a plan is good but sometimes you have to deviate as there is a new situation going on namely Flop gets checked around => different ranges


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

This is actually a pretty close spot on the turn imo.

Leading out is an option to collect the money in the pot, but the plan of check/raising is ok as well because since they're good regs there's a high chance someone stabs at the pot with air.
I'm not sure whether checl/raising or betting is better, at first I wanted to lead out, but now after thinking about it I actually like the c/r a bit better.

BUT: If they're good and stab the turn with semi-air they might call a c/r light if they have any piece of the board because your line doesn't represent much.

Check/calling is pretty bad as Becks said, you check/called and actually hit one of your draws - and you still want to c/f.

As played once you check and there's a bet and a call I still like a c/r more than a c/c because a c/c will get you in tough situations on the river (as we have seen ) and you still have some foldequity as well as good potequity (25% against top2 and other TP hands) and some implied odds.
Imo you don't have to shove it in, a raise or $38 will do the job and you have a nice stack to shove the river (~60 in ~96).


TheLastNail
Joined: 30.05.2008

betting right away on T is easier to play a lot in here. if u c/r u rly should be prepared to overbetshove R a lot coz u sense weakness and c/c, c/r lines oop in mw among regs are rly hard to balance for a wider valuerange so polarizing is usually logical.

reads needed. tho T c/c is pussyplay ;)


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

I just realized:
Since both of the opponents are good regs: do we really want to call preflop?
Our hand looks exactly like what it is and so since we're OOP to both of them we will never get much value postflop at any kind of flop and they will react properly to most plays we make - there's not much value in calling preflop, therefore we should fold.
If one of the guys was a fish it would be an easy call.