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[Closed] What do u think best play is???

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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

no read, got on this table ~3 orbits before this
I'm geting in this spots often enough and i dont know what the best play is?(what if i had AJs/AQo in same spot)
i know that fold is weak (couse me having A cut off some comb Ax hands)
but i dont like to just call in MP and 3 betting is sick if he 4bet shoves imo i got to fold.
and if I just call Im going to miss a ton of flops and i got to give it up if he Cbet.... thoughts??

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 8.8 Tournament, 800/1600 Blinds 150 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG (t34145)
UTG+1 (t92091)
MP1 (t33755)
MP2 (t66128)
Hero (MP3) (t61342)
CO (t41831)
Button (t12601)
SB (t34135)
BB (t29899)

Hero's M: 16.36

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A, Q
UTG bets t4800, 8 folds

Total pot: t5350
Main pot: t5350 returned to UTG

Results:
UTG didn't show
Outcome: UTG won t5350


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budzior
Joined: 26.02.2009

With deeper stacks (~30bbs) there is only one correct play there = call pre. AQs isnt good enough to 3bet against utg open and is too good to fold it pre so i call pre and play flop. You can profitably play it ip, flop q high, flop big draw and even float some spots ip or easily fold when you dont hit. The same with AJs and AQo.

In this situation folding pre is maybe a little bit weak but i like it. You have no reads, he raise 3bbs from utg with 20bbs stack. VS avg lag i 3bet/call with smile on my face. I dont like calling pre because there is no space to play this hand. Pot on the flop will be ~15k, your opponent have 28k in his stack... I dont know, i dont like to call pre with 20bbs stack. 3bet/call or fold and i prefer here fold.

So nh.


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by budzior
With deeper stacks (~30bbs) there is only one correct play there = call pre. AQs isnt good enough to 3bet against utg open and is too good to fold it pre so i call pre and play flop. You can profitably play it ip, flop q high, flop big draw and even float some spots ip or easily fold when you dont hit. The same with AJs and AQo.

In this situation folding pre is maybe a little bit weak but i like it. You have no reads, he raise 3bbs from utg with 20bbs stack. VS avg lag i 3bet/call with smile on my face. I dont like calling pre because there is no space to play this hand. Pot on the flop will be ~15k, your opponent have 28k in his stack... I dont know, i dont like to call pre with 20bbs stack. 3bet/call or fold and i prefer here fold.

So nh.

yea same thoughts, but i was thinking am i playing this king of spots too weak. guess not ;)


larseda
Joined: 06.08.2006

Originally posted by budzior
With deeper stacks (~30bbs) there is only one correct play there = call pre. AQs isnt good enough to 3bet against utg open and is too good to fold it pre so i call pre and play flop. You can profitably play it ip, flop q high, flop big draw and even float some spots ip or easily fold when you dont hit. The same with AJs and AQo.

In this situation folding pre is maybe a little bit weak but i like it. You have no reads, he raise 3bbs from utg with 20bbs stack. VS avg lag i 3bet/call with smile on my face. I dont like calling pre because there is no space to play this hand. Pot on the flop will be ~15k, your opponent have 28k in his stack... I dont know, i dont like to call pre with 20bbs stack. 3bet/call or fold and i prefer here fold.

So nh.

#2

sometimes the fold have the highest ev ...

at this buyins u get enough payout with ur strong hands, so there is no need a spot like this, which is maybe slightly +ev
agaian tight utgs ist everytime a fold, becuase u are to often domminated
again looser utgs, u call call it
Aqs is a good hand for 3bet/fold, because of blockers, but there are enough better spots for an 3betbluff then again utg ...