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[Closed] made straight on turn, flush card on river

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I thought his shove didn't make sense which was why I called. Probably it doesn't have to make sense since it was a $1 game. (This was a regular SnG on Stars, which is why I made the loosish call preflop)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 1.2 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t1670)
BB (t1665)
UTG (t1535)
MP1 (t1255)
MP2 (t2185)
CO (t3840)
Hero (Button) (t1350)

Hero's M: 30.00

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 8
3 folds, CO calls t30, Hero calls t30, SB calls t15, BB checks

Flop: (t120) 4, 10, 9 (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t120) 6 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets t60, CO calls t60, Hero raises to t210, 2 folds, CO calls t150

River: (t600) A (2 players)
CO bets t3600 (All-In), Hero calls t1110 (All-In)

Total pot: t2820


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can you please use a hand converter?

Google hand converter.


sick spot...

you have to call 1100 to win 1600~ so you have to be ahead MORE than half of the time in order to make a +cEV call. and because you are far from the bubble and its still low blinds you have to be right even more than that (this is called ICM tax)

some reads on the opponent would really help. this is a strange thing to do with a flush, but he could be doing it with a baby flush, who knows what hes doing lol.

im going to fold this one on river, we still have a healthy stack and i think he has a flush often enough to make this unprofitable.

in these games we will find very good pushes in late game to be able to make marginal folds like this early game.


This is a $1 game though.. He can be doing this with so many Ax and even 2 pairs a badly played set...

Can you really fold a made straight here on a $1???

The turn looks like an A high hand he could be calling with and when it hit on the river he shoves for value.


the main problem here 897 is that we have to call a 2x pot sized bet and be right a huge % of the time for this to be good in the long run.

sick spot indeed.

remembering that this is still lvl30. and we have an effective stack of 40BB behind...

yep, its a $1 game. so we have a huge edge end game. why take marginal risks early for a minimal equity advantage?


Originally posted by lessthanthreee
the main problem here 897 is that we have to call a 2x pot sized bet and be right a huge % of the time for this to be good in the long run.

sick spot indeed.

remembering that this is still lvl30. and we have an effective stack of 40BB behind...

yep, its a $1 game. so we have a huge edge end game. why take marginal risks early for a minimal equity advantage?

I agree with this.

Dam you have stronger nerves than me though because I think I would need to take out my mouse batteries not to call here.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
sick spot...

you have to call 1100 to win 1600~ so you have to be ahead MORE than half of the time in order to make a +cEV call. and because you are far from the bubble and its still low blinds you have to be right even more than that (this is called ICM tax)

This isn't right. The best way to do pot odds in this spot is to look at it like this. Villain bets 1100 into 600, if I call pot is going to be 2800. So I need to be correct 1100/2800 in order to make a +cEV call. Or 39.29% of the time. Unless you're calling for a chop, the percentage should never drop below 50% (try it out with a 1000x overbet on the river).

Originally posted by lessthanthreee
some reads on the opponent would really help. this is a strange thing to do with a flush, but he could be doing it with a baby flush, who knows what hes doing lol.

im going to fold this one on river, we still have a healthy stack and i think he has a flush often enough to make this unprofitable.

in these games we will find very good pushes in late game to be able to make marginal folds like this early game.

I'd fold against reasonable opponents because we have a bluffcatcher when he takes this line. However I think I crycall at the 1$ SNGs just because fish always show up with something you don't expect in this spot. So I tend towards going by absolute hand strength more often (we has a straight).