[Closed] Bubble Correct shove?

this is generally a good push.

however, it can become bad if you think the SB will call you very light, or if you think is he trapping a lot.

there are a lot of factors to consider in bubble play and you should try and develop some reads on your opponents to help you make decisions.

i would push this against an unknown who was limping the SB a lot.

That's the thing.... although I multitable in blocks and thus did not have a concrete read on the villain (unfortunately I cannot remember him completing as a trap or giving up easily) I really did not expect him to be calling me this light.

I would think even the least observant of players would notice how short the button was and therefore give up the SB fairly easily.

Also, I plugged these details into the ICM calc and saw some interesting figures:

ICM says my Preflop shoving range should be 100.00%, so this means I am shoving ATC's?

What I dont understand (and also what the help manual also doesnt explain) is what the Pre EQ, Post EQ and EQ diff mean in layman's terms.

What the results also showed was that the SB should be calling with the follwing ranges:

5.6% 88+ AQs+ AQo+
FSG: 7.2% 77+ AJs+AJo+ (also what do FGS and FSG mean and why are they different, this is also not explained)

So it seems like in the long run pushing here with ATC's should be proftiable in the long run and he has to have a handd within the top 10% of his range to make his call profitable even given the current stacks and situations. Is this right?

Thanks for the advice

pushing ATC here would be wrong.

the ICM calculator is only a tool, you need to input some approximate ranges in order for you to get an answer that makes sense.

you need to input his approximate limping range (this is very hard to guess), and his approximate calling range after limping (this is also very hard to guess).

from this hand you can obviously see that he is not calling 5.6%, so you would need to edit his ranges to see what range you can push.

PreEQ = your equity at the start of the hand
PostEQ = your equity at the end of the hand depending on the action it tells you (either push or fold)
EQdif = the difference between these numbers (the amount of equity you gain or lose)

the outcome will give you will only be true, if the inputs you choose are correct. These programs are just fancy calculators.

are they really that relevant at the micro's then?

I'm sure its possible to be a winning player without them.

Thanks

Originally posted by Rhymenoceros
are they really that relevant at the micro's then?

I'm sure its possible to be a winning player without them.

Thanks

if you use pokerstrategy.com's free ICM trainer, that will give you a good guide and more than enough ICM knowledge to comfortably beat the micros.

you will need to develop some knowledge of appropriate ranges to push in the micros, and this easily be enough to help you beat these limits.