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[Closed] 6,5USD turbo JJ MP reraised by BB

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LilSteewe
Joined: 25.05.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $120(BB) Replayer
SB ($720)
BB ($2,595)
UTG ($1,470)
Hero ($2,175)
UTG+2 ($3,865)
CO ($1,565)
BTN ($1,110)

Dealt to Hero J♦ J♥

fold, Hero raises to $300, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to $1,260, Hero raises to $2,175 (AI), BB calls $915

FLOP ($4,410) 7♥ 5♥ 5♣

TURN ($4,410) 7♥ 5♥ 5♣ 8♠

RIVER ($4,410) 7♥ 5♥ 5♣ 8♠ 3♦

BB shows A♣ A♠
(Pre 80%, Flop 88.0%, Turn 95.5%)

Hero shows J♦ J♥
(Pre 20%, Flop 12.0%, Turn 4.5%)

BB wins $4,410

should I have folded jacks in this situation?? Have no reads on the BB and the reraise was so big...


3 replies
bradomurder
Joined: 17.10.2008

well the final pot will be 4410 and its of course all going in if you shove so effectively you're calling 1875 to win 4410 which is 42.5%

Then it just depends what range you put him on. if its TT+, AQs+, AQo+ then you have 46.9% so its a call (just) If its more like JJ+ AQs, AKo then you're down to 36.6% so you'd have to fold.

Personally I thinks its tough without reads in this spot, but I think his raise size with the stack sizes makes it look like he wants you to shove over so i'd say its more like the 2nd range than the 1st, you could even weight AA and KK heavier (although I cant be bothered calculating that).

I think you can fold here because you still have a good stack and I really don't think you're ever much better than 50% against the average players range when they 3bet but don't shove like this.

People might say i'm wrong to make big judgements based on the fact he raised about half his stack but I reckon you just don't find people doing this with marginal hands like 88-TT or AJ


ill consider folding against a good regular. but getting it in is standard against unknowns


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

I think we have the equity to get it in vs his range but it is indeed quite close.

@bradomurder: unknowns can show up with 88-99 at times here too.