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[Closed] Rakeback, do you count it as bankroll?

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alenstrat
Joined: 13.03.2009

So, what does everyone do? Calculate rakeback into your bankroll or not?

I'm in the situation of being halfway to NL10 in terms of bankroll despite being down overall in winnings since starting NL5. I've heard of a lot of people in higher limits "playing for rakeback" and that being just breakeven appears to be fine as long as you're making enough rakeback?? Weird concept, but I guess profit is profit as long as your bankroll is moving up?


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yes i count it towards my bank roll and beleive most people do.


Wurble
Joined: 04.04.2009

Originally posted by alenstrat
So, what does everyone do? Calculate rakeback into your bankroll or not?

I'm in the situation of being halfway to NL10 in terms of bankroll despite being down overall in winnings since starting NL5. I've heard of a lot of people in higher limits "playing for rakeback" and that being just breakeven appears to be fine as long as you're making enough rakeback?? Weird concept, but I guess profit is profit as long as your bankroll is moving up?

It's all good counting rakeback as a part of your bank roll but if that's the only place your profit is coming from you should work on your game before moving up.

How many hands have you played at NL5? The problem is, if you're losing slightly at nl5 or breaking even then your losses will be bigger at nl10 and you don't want to move up just to blow your roll and have to move back down again.


conall88
Joined: 02.01.2009

for me , Once I hit NL20+, rakeback is for taking out as profit, while the rest of my winnings stay in my account :).


Definitely. I even count it as part of my win-rate. I draw down monthly on my poker account and rakeback forms an important part of overall profitability


nathanrenard
Joined: 10.02.2009

Rakeback is so important as winning actually.


nefarious26
Joined: 02.11.2008

yes i count rake, its just my money that they stole from me in the first place


Yes, I count it as part of my bankroll but I wouldn't move up if i couldn't profit at the lower limit without rakeback


alenstrat
Joined: 13.03.2009

Originally posted by nefarious26
yes i count rake, its just my money that they stole from me in the first place

That's a really good point. I think it applies doubly to SNG. For example partypoker micro SNG have such sick rake, that a profitable player is actually doubling the money he put into the prize pool with a for example 20-30% ROI. So for example the "partypoint cash bonuses" which are like rakeback is really literally just giving you back part of the huge amount they stole from you.


Originally posted by i5bet72o
Yes, I count it as part of my bankroll but I wouldn't move up if i couldn't profit at the lower limit without rakeback

+1

solid advice


lol rakeback is like 40% of my monthly profit. my games would be nearly unbeatable without it.