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kiromanAAKK
Joined: 08.10.2009

Hi,

On this hand:

NL Holdem $100(BB)
SB ($1,250)
BB ($1,955)
UTG ($970)
UTG+1 ($1,770)
UTG+2 ($1,020)
Hero ($1,600)
MP2 ($1,280)
CO ($1,240)
BTN ($2,415)

Dealt to Hero T :club: T :heart:

UTG calls $100, fold, fold, Hero raises to $350, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to $750, fold, Hero calls $400

FLOP ($1,650) 6♦ Q♥ 9♣

BB bets $350, Hero raises to $850 (AI), BB calls $500

TURN ($3,350) 6♦ Q♥ 9♣ K♦

RIVER ($3,350) 6♦ Q♥ 9♣ K 8 :heart:

You said:

I always feel like for a lot of guys folding AQ+/99+ is a pretty tough one, especially when they are <20BB. How certain are you that people will reshove tighter than AQ+/99+? Seems like a pretty tough decision to me and you can easily make a mistake there by folding. I think the better reads you have on the rest of the table, the better is raising (I'd make it about 300 or something though).

and

But shoving will never be bad and I'd recommend it as a default line for sure.

But how profitable is in the long run put and hand like TT as a default shove and risk a sit on a coin flip

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Hero: 51.279 % 50.676 % 1.205 % 48.119 % TdTc
Villian: 48.721 % 48.119 % 1.205 % 50.676 % 88+, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, AJo+, KJo+

as (at least in the limit Im playing) villian never fold (or better in the most of the case)
Thx :heart:

Obviously, forgive me if I miss-understood


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hazzelde
Joined: 27.04.2008

You should realize that people will also call with hands that you dominate like A8s, 66 and stuff like that. The range you mentioned is like the worst possible for you. Unfortunately I can't put that range into wiz and see how profitable it is, but I'm sure it's still +EV to shove.

I put people on loose calling ranges in wiz (wiz has a lot of Ax and PPs in tough), and your EV increases cuz people call you with crappy hands. In this case it's even 1.21%, which is massive. Don't be afraid of coinflips, pocket pairs are very strong hands. As a general rule of thumb with most ranges, AKo < TT < AKs. Would you be afraid of shoving AKo there? If you aren't, TT is an easy shove.