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[Closed] NL100 SH - 9T vs min3b pre; sd on flop

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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

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NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($70.50)
BB ($100)
Hero ($106)

Dealt to Hero T♥ 9♠

Hero raises to $3, SB raises to $5, fold, Hero calls $2

FLOP ($11) K♠ 7♦ 8♣

SB bets $11, Hero calls $11

TURN ($33) K♠ 7♦ 8♣ 6♦

SB checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($33) K♠ 7♦ 8♣ 6♦ J♥

SB checks, Hero bets $21, SB calls $21

villain is 100/100 after 3 hands; unknown, likely fish. I think we can comfortably call the resteal pre as this is a monster a lot of the time. once villain bet pot on the flop I think we can definitely assume he has a big hand (you see this all the time from fish: small betting preflop combined with massive over protection post-flop).
So I think, even though villain has only 70bb, we have a close call on the flop with our oesd+implieds. However, I think I played the rest of the hand badly.

I belive we need to get an additional $33 from villain in order to make the call breakeven. We get this from: $55/$11 = 5:1 = 16% (our equity on the flop vs a strong made hand).

So once we hit on the turn I guess we have to bet, once villain checked? Maybe $15, to set up a comfortable river shove? As played, having checked behind, I am forced to bet pot on the river (rather than two thirds pot) in order to make the maths work.

Do I have the calculations right? Any other thoughts?

Thanks


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mrandom
Joined: 01.12.2006

Yeah, just valuebet the turn - you have the nuts, villain is likely to be the fish, there are plenty of draws on the board - what you are waiting for? :) Bet the turn, shove the river...


You have more then 16% with oesd, closer to 35%. But why not bet the turn? You said yourself it looks like villain has a big hand so why not get the money in right here? If it turns out you are wrong and he has air, we can't be sure that he will bluff bet the river. moreover fish can't fold their hand in 3bet pots even if they missed so he definitely can call a bet with smt like AQ. plus you nut str8 is can be still be outdrawn in the river.
As played I'd make it even bigger on the river around 27$.


Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

You have more then 16% with oesd, closer to 35%.

Well we are talking about odds for one street only? I normally have to call another bet on turn so I cant assume I get to river for $11 only.

Otherwise, I agree with you. Didn't want to scare him away but you're right - vbet turn is mandatory.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

I don't think this is a monster preflop at all, imo he's just clicking buttons .

As played on the flop I still don't think this is a monster too often, he might just hit the pot button for fun.

So I'd definitely call, as you said considering we only see the turn and he might bet again in which case we have to fold it's close, but sometimes he c/folds and if he has anything we will win his entire stack most of the time.

But as the previous posters said (and I guess you realized yourself by now ;)) you should've bet the turn.