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[Closed] JJ facing a limper and a minraise

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NL Holdem $50(BB) Replayer
SB ($3,375)
BB ($1,640)
UTG ($1,370)
UTG+1 ($1,025)
UTG+2 ($1,775)
Hero ($1,440)
CO ($1,440)
BTN ($1,435)

Dealt to Hero J♠ J♦

UTG calls $50, UTG+1 raises to $100, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $50, UTG calls $50

FLOP ($325) K♣ K♦ 7♣

I decided to just give it up here, was really torn between raising or just shoving here.


8 replies
ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

You must have had some soul read of min raiser here to fold... I would reraise pretty much always.


Yea i'm sure folding is the wrong play here, was just trying out playing more tables at the time and didn't have enough time to think about this hand.

The guy was playing quite loose and raising a lot, i think 3-betting here means we're getting it in. The limper is also really loose, so it the BB in this hand


Looks good for a push. 225 already int the pot is enouth.
You can't 3bet fold anyway.


Annuit20
Joined: 14.09.2007

imo this is a PoF spot.(calling is an option but the postion isn't very nice for that)
Without a Range or Playertyp information its impossible to say whats the best line here.

My Standartline without any reads(at least we have VPIP) are to push TT+ AK.


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

we imo should never call here since we are inducing a lot of other players to call and join our hand.. YAAAYYYY

But yea I push this with JJ here... would have a harder time with TT and probably throw it away... But I can't lay down JJ here..


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

I like a reasonably cool line here which is raise to 250/call a push from the original raiser. We can then fold to a push by the other players who will inevitably have us absolutely crushed if they cold 4bet shove.


Hum... I see hero being called by limper and min raiser often if he 3 bets to 250.
Witch it's not completly horrible for us, we can still stack off on many flops, but makes me take the max FE way => PUSH


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Originally posted by santostr
Hum... I see hero being called by limper and min raiser often if he 3 bets to 250.
Witch it's not completly horrible for us, we can still stack off on many flops, but makes me take the max FE way => PUSH

I'm fine if the minraiser calls me. If the others call me that's not the worst result either however when we are playing 30bb deep with so many players to act behind us, we simply must consider the fact that one of them wakes up with a better hand than JJ.