[Closed] 6-Max SnG

stop playing them they aint worth your time. as number of players decrease, rake has a more significant impact on the game.

imo a 30% deeper bankroll for 6 max in comparison to full ring seems tolerable.

the actual bankroll size you need is normally based on:

-size of potential swings
- size of your edge
-whether you are withdrawing.

etc

if I have an ROI of 10% over a couple of thousand games, Id be happy to play with 60 buyins.

if it was 5% id opt for 130 buyins.

this is off the cuff, so dont take the numbers for what they are. theres a nice section on BRM in the other section ( strategy section with articles)

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/others/26/1/

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/sng/1072/1/

By stop playing them do you mean micro/low stakes sit n gos entirely, 6-max entirely, or just the jackpots?

Rake seems to be a problem generally for micro/low stake sit n gos. It's easy to understand why so many people elect to play micro cash tables instead.

Screw jackpot sng's! Do the math. On the long term you get ripped off.

Strangely enough i had smaller swings in 6max rather then FR. I think my biggest drawdown was like 30-40BI or so.

I think playing them with 50BI bankroll is not exagerated, but the more the better. At 100BI bankroll you should be reaaaaaally confortable playing them and like 75BB is great.

I think paying more than 10% rake even with rakeback for sngs just isnt worth it long run. Even at the micros you should be looking to pay 10% max, otherwise the variance will most likely tilt you.

On the buy in side I think 50 buy ins could be an issue for a lot of players. The variance is hefty and a bad swing of 20+ could tilt you pretty bad. I'm currently experimenting with $1+10 super turbos, I'd like to play higher but my bankroll won't cut it. I think if i had 50 or less buy ins I could tilt on a bad day easily. After 2 days I've played 72 $1+10 and it only feels like I've played 10, a downswing without 100+ BI would tilt most.

Originally posted by andreibalint
Screw jackpot sng's! Do the math. On the long term you get ripped off.

I fail to see how this is the case when the rake for the Standard $2 SnG's is also 40c. Not playing the Jackpots when the investment is the same surely must be -EV.

Anyway, I'm currently playing on IPoker and the rake for all of the Micro-stake SnG's (except Heads-up) is 20%. The next best option is to play the $5+0.50 SnG's.

dont play sngs with 20% rake. its not worth your time when you have a choice in the matter.

think of it this way.

For example someone making an average of $2 per game at the $10+1 level would have an ROI of 18.2% ($2/$11 = 18.2%)

if this were to be $10+2 ( 20% rake)
his ROI would be 16% ($2/$12= 16%)

for you this could mean:

($2+20 sng earning $0.22 per game)

$0.22/$2.20=10%

$0.22/$2.40=9.1%

so what its just under 1%!

for every hundred games you play, thats a buyin!

so what?

poker players play hundreds/ thousands of games!

I'm aware of the math. I'm just suggesting that there is little alternative in terms of SnG's at microstakes. Thanks for your input anyway.

FT $1.10 or $2.15 super turbos ftw!

Yup. Just another thing to add to the list of why IPoker Sucks!

Originally posted by jbpatzer
FT $1.10 or $2.15 super turbos ftw!

Basic Boris actually made $10/hour playing $2.15. Hero IMVHOHTMO