A Balanced Perspective of Augepaul: Part 1

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Boomer begins to review a session played by a pokerstrategy member at $3/$6 FLHE in a replayer format

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Comments (14)

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  • fitzinator18

    #1

    Enjoy the latest from Boomer!

    As always feedback and suggestions are much appreciated!
  • madorjan

    #2

    Great vid, however I have to say I don't like the fact you educate my competition!:)

    I'd like to add my 2 cent...

    KQ: I think x/f-ing either street would be horrendous, it would be the typical mistake that exploit 101 players make. He'll probably overpeel that board being a LP, so he has more potential bluff hands. Folding all of our checking range requires a superstrong read.
    Also I'd tend to vbet less rather than bluff more, cause of his range.

    KK: there's something I really dislike here. You say: "If you can't xr A hi boards, you should 3bet pre." That's definitely bs... If you 3bet pre, your equity is exactly same on A hi boards, but you put in an extra bet. If something, it should even encourage us to just call, and put in money on favourable boards, cause there's that equity shift. I'd much rather put in a 3bet pre if I have 51% on all boards, rather than having 0 49% of the times, and all 51% of the times (given I have the chance to put in money on later streets too). Also, this mindset says that we should 3bet AK preflop, cause we're not gonna be able to xr most flops with just AK hi.
    And don't forget the fact we're talking balanced here, where some hands have to lose value (although I think KK doesn't...) so that others could gain. But as I said, given that Villain cbets 100%, I think we gain value (e.g. by not putting in money when our equity is bad on the flop).
    I also really dislike the HCEQ analysis, which indeed shows we should NOT xr against his range, cause we're doing meh against his overall range - from which he'll fold a lot. I think not xr-ing here is totally fine against a tighter-than average guy. (Also keep in mind that our bluffs don't like this board that much either, cause they have less equity and less potential to realise it all (given we're gonna get raised on the turn more than average.) I also wouldn't build my range bottom-up on this board, exactly because of these factors.
    Calling with our entire range is also something I'd never do. We're OOP for one, therefore expecting him to check back more on the turn. Also, we don't particularly have a too weak range to protect, we have a wide range that can be distributed well among the options - I see no reasons to just call our entire range. Maybe xr a tighter than average range, I'm fine with that.
  • madorjan

    #3

    J3: I raise this all day against a nitty 29/22 - of course it would be nicer to see his fold BB to steal stat or something, but these kind of oldschool nits in general won't defend as loose as they should - althought there are some, but they play their weak range awfully badly postflop. Just see hero in this hand.
    Just a quick note: you shouldn't pick the folding range out of the entire turn range (you say we're c/folding more than 30%), but from our checking range. Doesn't change the facts or the conclusion or anything, just a minor theoratical mistake.

    A9: raising the flop cause we have a strong range cause we don't cap is not a good argument - Villain's range is still stronger.
    You once again say that if we don't raise a Q for value, we should raise the flop - once again, not true. If our equity is not good enough to raise a Q turn, than our equity on the flop given the turn will surely come a Q is not good either, so why does that affect our flop decision? This is the exact same spot as above.
  • Boomer2k10

    #4

    The HCEQ analysis is a worst case scenario as it assumes our opponent is entirely positionslly unaware which I don't think is fair to assume.

    It is also not just the fact you are loskng value post you also admitted he is going to check back more than normal meanong we lose even further value and it is not like our hand is godawful, wr are still a favoutite but our line has put us in s hugr RIO situation whereas a calldown with a weaker pair is much more likely than trying to induce a light VB

    I admit that their may be a tighter value range might be appropriate but I think we may be able to do better

    tbh while 29/22 isn't the Laggiest guy in the world but he isn't a hyper nit either, We are opening a 70% range with thay and if we are not balanced and playing well post flop it is a lising hand and it may even still be with the rake structure

    A9 - I cannot remember saying that about the 9 but if I did I am wrong there. Q hurts us too much on the turn however my thought is probably muddled on this one.

    Thanks for the comments :)
  • beni

    #5

    great video, but one question:
    In the last hand you recommend hero to fold 88, 77 and 55 on the turn. Why? Hero is still ahead vs AK,AJ,AT and out of villains range and there are probably some other hands which villain can 3bet which hero is currently ahead against.
  • Boomer2k10

    #6

    We are still ahead of some of his hands, true, but we are at the absolute bottom of our range and if we called with these hands we'd literally be calling with the entirety of our range which can't be correct becasue it is a highly exploitable strategy which can be taken advatage of by our opponent simply never bluffing on the turn.

    At this point I decided that I would prefer a hand like A6 in this situation because we're just as likely to be ahead of his range as we are with 77-88 (77-88 are slightly favoured due to his combos of each of them) but we have more outs to improve with A6s so I'm ok calling that instead.

    When trying to balance our range we do not take into account our opponent's hand range past a certain point otherwise we will end up levelling ourselves (such as the aforementioned "Well I beat xyz in his range but if I call this hand down he can just exploit me by never bluffing) and that's what this kind of analysis tries to avoid.

    Hope that answered your question and thanks for watching
  • Augepaul

    #7

    Hi Boomer!

    I'm not sure what the best way to do this is, but I try it like this.

    My thoughts on the KQ Hand are on the Turn:
    I that that this is the nut no pair hand and I therefore thought it might be good to check it since I would prefer checking this hand and betting a Hand like KT. Since therefore I also have hands in my checking range that are able to go to the Showdown no matter what cards come. However with KT etc I don't feel great if I c/c the Turn and then a J or a Q hits on the River and Villain bets since then a few of his JT,QJ etc stuff improved and I'm still behind all other pairs. The difference between these Hands isn't big but I thought that this might be better for my overall range. However a few weeks ago I would have bet teh Turn for value 100% of the time since I think that a Limper might peel on teh Turn pretty light and therefore I might get Value form sth like QJ,etc.

    But I'm not really sure if these Thoughts/Arguments do make sense to be honnest. I hope you can reconstruct my thoughts here.
  • Augepaul

    #8

    KK Hand:
    My Defending Range would look sth like:

    http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=preflopdefend_kkzarlu.png

    I didn't consider at all that it might be good to fold the weak Ax since his Range is probably pretty Ax heavy so I should be readjusting this!
    However don't you think, that it would be better to keep the Ax hands in my callingrange that have the straightdraw possibilities. Since there is literally no differenc in Highcardstrength between A7 and A2 here imo.

    I would have c/r with nearly all of my Ax exept for a few Ax suited Kombos which I would have delayed on the Turn and I would c/r all of my gutter exept for Q5s

    This would lead to the following Ranges (I used the same colours that you used):
    http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=kk_boomer_flop_3akq80.png

    So I think my preflop adjustments to defend tighter have led to being my c/ring ratio ok I guess. I might be overbluffing a bit but I'm not 100% sure that I delay the A(s and A7s on teh Turn and tehrefore it's getting pretty close I guess.

    However if I fold A2o-A4o I then should not bluff the Q4s and it might be best to also c/r KK to have a comlpetely balanced range, that's true.
  • Augepaul

    #9

    J3o Hand:
    Yeah J3o is just trash I thought I would fold that preflop aswell, bus seems like I don't so I have to watch out to not being to loose in the Sb, thanks!

    I can definitely see your point in J3 being in the bottom end of our Range.

    However my reasoning was sth like: After he called the Flop he either has a FD or a weak pair and most of these Hands I don't get to fold before the River and therefore would have to put in 2 bets ( Which I think is true)
    and that I might get a freecard some time which is pretty good for my hand I guess and if he gets he has me beat most of the time adn even if he might be bluffing with a hand with a spade he has at least 12 outs so the fold is good if he's betting.

    That being said since it's that low in my range I should be betting the Turn and River if no spade comes I think!
    But what do you think about my thoughts?

    You would b/ca the Turn and fold teh River unimproved I guess, right?

    What hands would you check on the Turn then? Hands without draws?
    What hands do you think would be good to c/r as a semibluff and which ones should be c/r for value?
  • Augepaul

    #10

    A9o:

    Here I disagree with your assumptions since I would assume that most people wouldn't bet a hand like AT and AJ on the Turn since Aj has about 32% , ATo around 26% vs my range (as you assumed I won't raise anything on the Flop at all last to act in these narrow range spots)
    So therefore it reduces the possible Combos that might be able to bluff me on the River. I think it depends on if Villain will bluffbet the River with 77 and 88 . If he does we have around 23% and if he doesn't we have around 4%. At least exploitateively.

    I put the Hand into the forum and let you know what the tenor is.
  • Augepaul

    #11

    But again I slearly see your Point!
    And I think you changed my mind on that one.
    The Problem is that it's really hard to figure out if the call is right. SO your method has even more merit I reckon :)
  • Pulow

    #12

    great vid! really liked it.


    A9 last hand :
    like madorjan.. i strongly disagree with folding 77,88 on the turn. even if villain checks all AJ,AT and only "bluffs" AK,77 we still have 24% equity.

    if i want to fold more, i would rather fold AJ because it loses to AK.
  • wuerstchenwilli

    #13

    I don't like Boomer thoughts on the KK-Hand. Either we lay exploitive or GTO. If we think he folds too much we are going to bluff more. We don't need to keep our Range balanced bye checkraising KK, because we want to exploit! KK in my opinion is perfect for check/CD because there is no need too protect from anything.
  • Boomer2k10

    #14

    In hindsight probably correct, however there is a difference between GTO and balanced play.

    You are correct in how you analyse though, if he's folding too much we don't need to add hands to our value range