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Lujan87
Beigetreten: 07.07.2009
Oldschool Grinder

Hi

Ich habe Pläne zu Deutschland (Bayern Land) zu bewegen und spielen Poker. Ich habe gehört, dass Poker ist illegal, aber der deutsche Staat nicht kontrolliert. ist das wahr?

Die zweite Frage ist: Minijob REDUZIERT Wahrscheinlichkeit durch das Finanzamt zu kontrollieren?

(GOOGLE TRANSLATED)

grüßen :)


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elnapo
Beigetreten: 05.07.2006
PokerStrategist

Hmmkay


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Golodion
Beigetreten: 26.12.2006
PokerStrategist

Hallo Lujan87,

wenn du Google Translator brauchst, um hier etwas in Deutsch zu posten, dann mache es stattdessen doch besser auf Englisch.

Öffentliches Glücksspiel ist in Deutschland bis auf lizenzierte Kasinos und Wettbüros verboten. Ob Online-Poker darunter fällt, ist juristisch umstritten. Hobbyspieler werden in der Regel nicht von der Justiz verfolgt.

Zu Steuerfragen wendest du dich am besten an einen Steuerberater.

Die zweite Frage verstehe ich nicht.


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Lujan87
Beigetreten: 07.07.2009
Oldschool Grinder

Original von Golodion

Die zweite Frage verstehe ich nicht.

Neither do I :)

sorry for this sick translate

is it better to have small job (1/2 time) + play poker? Will this reduce probability of Finanzamt control?

Bests


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Renne01
Beigetreten: 15.05.2007
Elite Grinder

You dont have to pay tax for luckgame winnings. But there is the possibility that the tax office want to get your money anyway. In this case you will have a trial. Your oppositon will argue that your game (poker) is normally a luckgame, but not in your case, because you can find some advantages to make it a skillgame. If the judge then says, that its no luckgame in your case, you will have to pay tax. But the judge can also say, that its still a luckgame. Then you dont have to pay tax. So this is a very grey area in law.

The best thing you should do, is, to stay in stealthmode. If you cash out some money, keep the money on your bankaccount for a while. Dont ship it to another place directly. And do not tell everybody, that you are a professional player. So dont be cocky. I personally tell, that im an investor or trader at the markets, or I just say, that im a student at university (what is true). I never have had troubles with tax although I had tried to become a police man in the past and although I dont pay any income taxes (I have no official job). And I have been doing so for about 10 years by now. A friend of mine has been doing it another way. He has a small job (i guess 10 or 15 hours per week). If you have a friend with his own business, maybe he employs you. Of course you will have to pay him, because you are cost factor on him, if you dont work for him for real. But to say it clear, if you have a job officially, but you dont work for real, this is illegal. So if you find a job, then maybe you should really work there.


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Lujan87
Beigetreten: 07.07.2009
Oldschool Grinder

Thanks Renne. Didn't expect this very detailed answer :)

Bests


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rgz65
Beigetreten: 20.10.2010
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think you shouldnt move to germany to play poker here.
i could understand your problem if you get a job here and also want to play poker but if there is no financal commitmend to germany just make it easy for you and move to great brittian or austria or malta or gibralta (if you want to stay in europe)


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