Bad Beats

Wie ich so eine Scheisse liebe.. -.-

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$0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
[tg]MP3$10.36:///////;CO$5.04:///////;BU$1.74:///////;SB$2.30:///////;BB$2.30:///////;UTG2$1.80:///////;MP1(Hero)$10.00:///////;MP2$7.46:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K:s, K:c.
UTG2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.40, 4 folds.

Flop: ($0.95) 4:c, 6:d, 7:d (2 players)
Hero bets $0.78, MP3 calls $0.78.

Turn: ($2.51) T:d (2 players)
Hero bets $1.79, MP3 calls $1.79.

River: ($6.09) 3:s (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, MP3 calls $3.50.

Final Pot: $13.09.
Results follow:

MP3 shows a straight, seven high(5:s 5:d).
Hero shows a pair of kings(K:s K:c).

MP3 wins with a straight, seven high(5:s 5:d).

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$0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
[tg]MP3$2.28:///////;CO$9.99:///////;BU$11.63:///////;SB(Hero)$10.00:///////;BB$2.00:///////;UTG2$1.78:///////;MP1$2.13:///////;MP2$1.85:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:s, Q:d.
4 folds, CO raises to $0.40, BU folds, Hero raises to $1.20, BB folds, CO calls $0.80.

Flop: ($2.5) 9:d, 3:s, 6:h (2 players)
Hero bets $1.68, CO raises to $3.86, Hero raises to $8.80, CO calls $4.93(All-In).

Turn: ($20.09) 5:c (2 players)

River: ($20.09) T:s (2 players)

Final Pot: $20.09.
Results follow:

CO shows three of a kind, fives(5:d 5:h).
Hero shows a pair of queens(Q:s Q:d).

CO wins with three of a kind, fives(5:d 5:h).
Hero wins with a pair of queens(Q:s Q:d).

gestern endlich mal wieder 3 stacks up... dann heute 30 minuten session:

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$0.1/$0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

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[tg]BU$32.34:///////;SB(Hero)$24.15:///////;BB$6.71:///////;MP3$4.47:///////;CO$16.91:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with A:c, A:d.
2 folds, BU raises to $0.70, Hero raises to $2.60, BB folds, BU calls $1.90.

Flop: ($5.4) J:d, 4:c, 9:h (2 players)
Hero bets $3.00, BU calls $3.00.

Turn: ($11.4) 6:c (2 players)
Hero bets $6.00, BU calls $6.00.

River: ($23.4) 9:c (2 players)
Hero bets $12.55, BU calls $12.55.

Final Pot: $48.5.
Results follow:

Hero shows two pairs, aces and nines(A:c A:d).
BU shows a flush, queen high(J:c Q:c).

BU wins with a flush, queen high(J:c Q:c).

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$0.1/$0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BB$20.62:///////;MP3(Hero)$21.71:///////;CO$13.55:///////;BU$22.49:///////;SB$3.60:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A:s, A:c.
Hero raises to $0.80, CO folds, BU calls $0.80, 2 folds.

Flop: ($1.9) 7:s, 3:s, T:s (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, BU raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $20.91, BU calls $15.41.

Turn: ($43.72) 9:c (2 players)

River: ($43.72) 6:h (2 players)

Final Pot: $43.72.
Results follow:

Hero shows a pair of aces(A:s A:c).
BU shows a straight, ten high(8:h T:c).

BU wins with a straight, ten high(8:h T:c).

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$0.1/$0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BB$20.97:///////;MP2$19.40:///////;MP3$30.13:///////;CO(Hero)$26.12:///////;BU$29.21:///////;SB$20.00:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9:d, 9:c.
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.80, BU calls $0.80, 2 folds.

Flop: ($1.9) 4:d, 2:c, 6:c (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, BU calls $1.20.

Turn: ($4.3) 7:d (2 players)
Hero bets $2.60, BU calls $2.60.

River: ($9.5) Q:s (2 players)
Hero bets $5.20, BU calls $5.20.

Final Pot: $19.9.
Results follow:

Hero shows a pair of nines(9:d 9:c).
BU shows a pair of queens(Q:d K:s).

BU wins with a pair of queens(Q:d K:s).

und noch paar flips gegen shortys verloren und die winnings sind wieder weg. FUCKING RIVER!!!!

Moahhh, wtf is this Shit..

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$0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

Known players:
[tg]MP2$2.00:///////;MP3$10.00:///////;CO$4.74:///////;BU$5.00:///////;SB$2.90:///////;BB$2.01:///////;UTG1$3.26:///////;UTG2(Hero)$11.76:///////;MP1$12.62:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with J:h, J:s.
MP3 posts deadblind, CO posts deadblind, UTG1 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.50, 4 folds.

Flop: ($1.5) J:d, 5:h, 2:h (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, MP3 calls $1.10.

Turn: ($3.7) T:s (2 players)
Hero bets $3.30, MP3 calls $3.30.

River: ($10.3) A:s (2 players)
Hero bets $6.76, MP3 calls $5.00.

Final Pot: $22.06.
Results follow:

Hero shows three of a kind, jacks(J:h J:s).
MP3 shows a straight, ace high(K:h Q:c).

MP3 wins with a straight, ace high(K:h Q:c).

;x

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$0.1/$0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$9.73:///////;SB$10.00:///////;BB(Hero)$3.10:///////;UTG1$19.40:///////;UTG2$19.11:///////;MP1$3.90:///////;MP2$11.76:///////;MP3$3.80:///////;CO$21.78:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BB with A:s, J:d.
UTG1 calls $0.20, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.20, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3.10, UTG1 calls $2.90, MP3 folds.

Flop: ($6.5) J:s, 5:s, 7:c (2 players)

Turn: ($6.5) 8:h (2 players)

River: ($6.5) 9:d (2 players)

Final Pot: $6.5.

Results follow:

UTG1 shows a straight, jack high(T:h A:d).
Hero shows a pair of jacks(A:s J:d).

UTG1 wins with a straight, jack high(T:h A:d).

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$0.1/$0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

Known players:
[tg]UTG1$16.85:///////;UTG2$19.70:///////;MP1$4.67:///////;MP2$3.31:///////;MP3$20.00:///////;CO$21.76:///////;BU(Hero)$4.00:///////;SB$21.72:///////;BB$20.10:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BU with J:c, A:s.
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.20, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, 2 folds, MP1 raises to $4.67, Hero calls $3.00(All-In).

Flop: ($8.97) 7:s, K:h, A:c (2 players)

Turn: ($8.97) K:d (2 players)

River: ($8.97) T:s (2 players)

Final Pot: $8.97.
Results follow:

Hero shows two pairs, aces and kings(J:c A:s).
MP1 shows three of a kind, kings(9:c K:s).

MP1 wins with three of a kind, kings(9:c K:s).

Can you beat the Beats? ♠_cool:

Original von Zw3rG
Can you beat the Beats? ♠_cool:

Das ist ein Witz gegen diesen hier.

99,1% am Flop als es rein ging...

Hatte gestern den wohl ultimativen Bad Beat:

99,9 % am Flop.. der da war Qh Ts 3d

pokenum -h qs qc - td 7c -- qh ts 3d
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Ts 3d Qh
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Qs Qc 989 99.90 1 0.10 0 0.00 0.999
7c Td 1 0.10 989 99.90 0 0.00 0.001

Es kamen natürlich zwei Zehner..

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NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
SB ($8.25)
BB ($9)
UTG ($3.85)
Hero ($10.88)
UTG+2 ($7.79)
MP1 ($9.56)
CO ($8.60)
BTN ($4)

Dealt to Hero Q♠ Q♣

UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.28, fold, UTG calls $0.25

FLOP ($0.95) 7♥ 4♥ 5♦

SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60, UTG calls $0.60

TURN ($2.75) 7♥ 4♥ 5♦ Q♦

SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.70, SB calls $1.70, UTG calls $1.70

RIVER ($7.85) 7♥ 4♥ 5♦ Q♦ 5♥

SB bets $5.65 (AI), UTG calls $1.25 (AI), Hero calls $5.65

SB shows 5♠ 5♣
(Pre 18%, Flop 68.4%, Turn 2.4%)

UTG shows K♥ J♥
(Pre 29%, Flop 26.1%, Turn 16.7%)

Hero shows Q♠ Q♣
(Pre 53%, Flop 5.4%, Turn 81.0%)

SB wins $19.40

Gestern ne Session ... lief ok, nach 50 Min 1 1/2 Stacks UP und wollte n Break m,achen... Da bekomm ich Queens... Folden!? NEIN!

Klar das ich das Nutfullhouse mache und auch klar das der 200 BB Typ denkt das ich auf die Aktion mit AA insta broke gehen würde (NICHT!)... Naja Nuts vs. Quads... Nh Sir!

Möchte alledings noch dazu sagengen das ich die Queens gegen den 200 BB Typen am Turn nur c/c oder c/f gespielt hätte! Ohne das Fullhouse bzw die tripps hätte ich die Bet nie gecalled nichmal mit AA...

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[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$50,00:///////;MP2$83,51:06/50/0/0,0/50/-/-/100;CO$9,88:16/13/13/-/100/0/100/100;[/tg]
0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
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Preflop: Hero is SB with A♣, A♥
MP2 calls $0,50, MP3 folds, CO raises to $1,00, BU folds, Hero raises to $3,50, 2 folds, CO raises to $9,88 (All-In), Hero calls $6,38.

Flop: ($20,76) 4♠, 9♥, 8♥
Turn: ($20,76) 5♣
River: ($20,76) Q♥ (2 players)

Final Pot: $20,76

Hero shows a pair of aces (Ac Ah)
CO shows a flush, king high (Kh Th)

CO wins with a flush, king high (Kh Th)

[ ] schön von shorties ausgesuckt zu werden

das war schon ein bisschen sick...

$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($45.36)
UTG+1 ($37.66)
CO ($10)
BTN ($57.95)
SB ($15.40)
Hero (BB) ($50.50)

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is BB 9♠ 9♣
UTG raises to $1.50, UTG+1 calls $1.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $1

Flop: A♠ 9♥ A♦ ($4.75, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $2, Hero calls $2, UTG calls $2

Turn: J♣ ($10.75, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $3, Hero raises to $9.50, UTG calls $9.50, UTG+1 calls $6.50

River: 3♣ ($39.25, 3 players)
Hero bets $29, UTG calls $29, UTG+1 goes all-in $24.66

Final Pot: $121.91
Hero shows (Full house nines full of aces)
9♠ 9♣
UTG shows (Full house aces full of nines)
9♦ A♥
UTG+1 shows (Full house aces full of jacks)
J♦ A♣

UTG+1 wins $110.69 (net +$73.03)

UTG collects $8.47 (net -$33.53)
Hero lost $42

Flip verlieren - ok.. wobei das auch sauärgerlich ist. Aber nicht mit 91% am Flop!

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$0.1/$0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

Known players:
[tg]MP3$6.15:///////;CO$21.82:///////;BU$7.92:///////;SB(Hero)$3.50:///////;BB$20.53:///////;MP1$33.42:///////;MP2$9.80:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:c, A:h.
3 folds, CO raises to $0.60, BU folds, Hero raises to $3.50, BB raises to $20.53, CO folds.

Flop: ($24.63) 4:c, Q:s, 5:d (2 players)

Turn: ($24.63) 9:h (2 players)

River: ($24.63) A:s (2 players)

Final Pot: $24.63.
Results follow:

Hero shows two pairs, aces and queens(Q:c A:h).
BB shows three of a kind, nines(9:c 9:d).

BB wins with three of a kind, nines(9:c 9:d).

kann ich schlagen:
98% - 1 outer am river ^^

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB$58,45:128/48/22/4,9/22/26/56/40;Hero$50,00:///////;[/tg]
0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with J♦, J♠
MP3 folds, Hero raises to $2,00, 2 folds, BB calls $1,50.

Flop: ($4,25) 2♥, J♣, 5♠ (2 players)
BB bets $2,02, Hero calls $2,02.

Turn: ($8,29) 8♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5,50, BB raises to $11,00, Hero raises to $45,98 (All-In), BB calls $34,98.

River: ($100,25) 8♦ (2 players)

Final Pot: $100,25

Results follow (highlight to see):
Hero shows a full-house, jacks full of eights (Jd Js)
BB shows four of a kind, eights (8s 8h)

BB wins with four of a kind, eights (8s 8h)

guck ma lieber wieviel er am flop hat ♦

0,1% ^^

Mir passieren die irgendwie nur in der Masse, die Bad Beats. Und dann auch immer gleich alle auf einmal. -.-

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$0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

Known players:
[tg]SB$12.12:///////;BB(Hero)$10.00:///////;MP1$22.75:///////;MP2$49.00:///////;MP3$10.94:///////;CO$76.79:///////;BU$21.85:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BB with K:d, A:s.
4 folds, BU raises to $1.50, SB folds, Hero raises to $10.00, BU calls $8.50.

Flop: ($20.25) A:d, T:c, 5:h (2 players)

Turn: ($20.25) J:d (2 players)

River: ($20.25) 3:c (2 players)

Final Pot: $20.25.
Results follow:

Hero shows a pair of aces(K:d A:s).
BU shows two pairs, aces and jacks(A:h J:h).

BU wins with two pairs, aces and jacks(A:h J:h).

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$0.1/$0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

Known players:
[tg]UTG2$7.98:///////;MP1$2.65:///////;MP2$4.00:///////;MP3$4.00:///////;CO$8.00:///////;BU$9.48:///////;SB$3.91:///////;BB(Hero)$4.00:///////;UTG1$2.47:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7:c, 7:s.
MP3 posts deadblind, UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls $0.20, 2 folds, MP3 checks, CO folds, BU calls $0.20, SB folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.9) 5:s, 7:h, 9:c (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG2 bets $0.20, MP3 folds, BU raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.80, UTG2 calls $0.60.

Turn: ($3.3) 6:c (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG2 checks, BU bets $1.00, Hero raises to $3.00, UTG2 folds, BU calls $2.00.

River: ($9.3) 4:c (2 players)

Final Pot: $9.3.
Results follow:

Hero shows three of a kind, sevens(7:c 7:s).
BU shows a straight, seven high(3:s 9:s).

BU wins with a straight, seven high(3:s 9:s).

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$0.1/$0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)

Known players:
[tg]CO$5.05:///////;BU$9.87:///////;SB$29.34:///////;BB$19.70:///////;UTG$4.30:///////;UTG1$8.50:///////;UTG2$4.73:///////;MP1$3.41:///////;MP2$8.41:///////;MP3(Hero)$3.70:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9:d, 9:c.
5 folds, Hero raises to $0.70, CO raises to $5.05(All-In), BU calls $5.05, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.00(All-In).

Flop: ($14.1) A:d, 8:c, 8:s (3 players)

Turn: ($14.1) 4:s (3 players)

River: ($14.1) 5:c (3 players)

Final Pot: $14.1.
Results follow:

CO shows two pairs, aces and eights(J:s A:s).
BU shows two pairs, aces and eights(J:c A:c).
Hero shows two pairs, nines and eights(9:d 9:c).

CO wins with two pairs, aces and eights(J:s A:s).
BU wins with two pairs, aces and eights(J:c A:c).

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$0.1/$0.2 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$3.05:///////;SB$11.63:///////;BB(Hero)$4.00:///////;UTG2$15.38:///////;MP1$21.54:///////;MP2$20.00:///////;MP3$5.40:///////;CO$3.70:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BB with J:d, J:h.
UTG2 raises to $1.00, 6 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, UTG2 calls $3.00.

Flop: ($8.1) 2:c, 3:c, A:s (2 players)

Turn: ($8.1) 4:c (2 players)

River: ($8.1) 7:c (2 players)

Final Pot: $8.1.
Results follow:

Hero shows a pair of jacks(J:d J:h).
UTG2 shows a flush, nine high(9:c 9:d).

UTG2 wins with a flush, nine high(9:c 9:d).

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$0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$24.93:///////;SB$43.64:///////;BB$52.27:///////;UTG$71.17:///////;UTG1(Hero)$18.29:///////;UTG2$10.00:///////;MP1$32.66:///////;MP2$51.75:///////;MP3$50.00:///////;CO$56.82:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is UTG1 with A:h, A:s.
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 6 folds, SB calls $1.25, BB folds.

Flop: ($3.5) T:d, 9:d, K:h (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $16.79, SB calls $11.29.

Turn: ($37.08) 2:c (2 players)

River: ($37.08) 8:d (2 players)

Final Pot: $37.08.
Results follow:

Hero shows a pair of aces(A:h A:s).
SB shows a straight, king high(Q:h J:h).

SB wins with a straight, king high(Q:h J:h).

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$0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BB$9.00:///////;UTG$11.25:///////;UTG1$19.67:///////;UTG2$24.25:///////;MP1$48.39:///////;MP2$50.00:///////;MP3$49.50:///////;CO(Hero)$8.75:///////;BU$27.12:///////;SB$19.93:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q:d, K:h.
3 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.00, 3 folds, MP1 calls $1.50.

Flop: ($4.75) Q:c, K:s, A:s (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $3.00, MP1 raises to $6.00, Hero raises to $6.75, MP1 calls $0.75.

Turn: ($18.25) T:s (2 players)

River: ($18.25) 3:d (2 players)

Final Pot: $18.25.
Results follow:

MP1 shows a straight, ace high(J:s T:h).
Hero shows two pairs, kings and queens(Q:d K:h).

MP1 wins with a straight, ace high(J:s T:h).

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$0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
[tg]MP2$35.16:///////;MP3$12.00:///////;CO$39.25:///////;BU(Hero)$9.25:///////;SB$50.00:///////;BB$50.00:///////;UTG2$29.69:///////;MP1$31.91:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is BU with J:c, J:s.
UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 raises to $2.00, MP3 folds, CO calls $2.00, Hero raises to $9.25(All-In), 4 folds, CO calls $7.25.

Flop: ($21.75) 3:c, T:c, Q:s (2 players)

Turn: ($21.75) 3:s (2 players)

River: ($21.75) 3:h (2 players)

Final Pot: $21.75.
Results follow:

Hero shows a full-house, threes full of jacks(J:c J:s).
CO shows a full-house, threes full of queens(Q:d J:d).

CO wins with a full-house, threes full of queens(Q:d J:d).

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$0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

Known players:
[tg]CO$13.77:///////;BU$8.68:///////;SB(Hero)$8.75:///////;BB$51.33:///////;MP1$10.00:///////;MP2$8.00:///////;MP3$12.81:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with A:s, J:h.
4 folds, BU calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.50, BB folds, BU calls $2.00.

Flop: ($5.5) 6:h, Q:s, 3:s (2 players)
Hero bets $6.25, BU calls $6.18(All-In).

Turn: ($17.93) 2:s (2 players)

River: ($17.93) 9:d (2 players)

Final Pot: $17.93.
Results follow:

Hero shows high card ace(A:s J:h).
BU shows a pair of threes(3:c K:c).

BU wins with a pair of threes(3:c K:c).

lol

weißt du überhaupt was n bad beat is?
auf jeden fall nicht, wenn du n coin flip hast oder das geld mit der schlechteren hand in die mitte bekommst

rofl ey

Original von Lasso
lol

weißt du überhaupt was n bad beat is?
auf jeden fall nicht, wenn du n coin flip hast oder das geld mit der schlechteren hand in die mitte bekommst

rofl ey

shorty - über odds & outs wissen die eh nicht bescheid...

Ist mir auch klar, dass es keine überkr4ss3n s1ck3n b4d b34t5 sind ihr Eumel.. aber irgendwohin musste ich das mal posten.

Original von TheKami
Ist mir auch klar, dass es keine überkr4ss3n s1ck3n b4d b34t5 sind ihr Eumel.. aber irgendwohin musste ich das mal posten.

straight vs 2pair und straight vs overpair...
ich seh nicht mal wo der beat ist. Als das Geld reingeht bist du klarer underdog.

Bei 3 von den 8 Händen ja bei den anderen nein. Aber auch da sind die Hände deutlich schlechter preflop und man verliert natürlich trotzdem.
Wenn das kein Bad Beat ist weiß ich auch nicht, dann gibts offenbar keine Bad Beats, wenn die schlechtere Hand normalerweise immer gewinnt.