Good Beats

Original von BigAndy
Ist zwar nicht so besonders. Aber schaut mal genau auf MP3.

Party Poker 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A♠, 6♠.
Hero calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) Q♠, J♣, 3♠ (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP3 raises, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP3 caps, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (12.70 BB) 5♦ (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP3 raises, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 3-bets, MP3 calls, Button calls, Hero caps, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

River: (28.70 BB) 8♠ (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, MP3 3-bets, Button calls, Hero caps, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 44.70 BB

Results:
Hero has As 6s (flush, ace high).
MP1 has Js 5s (flush, queen high).
MP3 has Ac Kh (high card, ace). <== 3bet damit am River
Button has 4c Qd (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins 44.70 BB.

Nice Hand ♦
Aber meine 48.5 BB hat noch keiner geschlagen....(bin aber auch zu faul den ganzen Thread durchzugehen und zu suchen)...
MP3 rockt

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30/t60
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2950
UTG+1: t2860
Hero: t4830
MP2: t2300
MP3: t2570
CO: t3370
Button: t2840
SB: t4120
BB: t4160

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with 4♥ 4♠
2 folds, Hero calls t60 (pot was t90), MP2 calls t60 (pot was t150), MP3 calls t60 (pot was t210), CO folds, Button calls t60 (pot was t270), SB calls t30 (pot was t330), BB checks.

Flop: T♦ 9♦ 4♦ (t360, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t200, 2 folds, Button calls t200 (pot was t560), 2 folds.

Turn: 2♥ (t760, 2 players)
Hero bets t400, Button calls t400 (pot was t1160).

River: K♥ (t1560, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Results:
Final pot: t1560
Hero shows 4h 4s
Button shows Ts Th

zum Glück ein Flushboard, ansonsten wärs teuer geworden, deshalb "Good Beat"

Das war mal nen schönes Dingen. ♦ Ohne River wär die Hand jetzt im Bad Beat Thread.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
10 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $14.05
UTG+1: $71.50
Hero: $138.05
MP1: $17.20
MP2: $38.01
MP3: $27.85
CO: $45.20
Button: $45
SB: $30.05
BB: $75.40

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with 3♣ 3♥
2 folds, Hero calls, 4 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: T♥ 5♣ 3♦ ($2, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.5, Button calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 9♠ ($3, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.5, Button raises to $2, Hero calls.

River: 3♠ ($7, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button is all-in $42, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $91
Hero shows 3c 3h
Button doesn't show Ts Td

Original von OnkelG
Das war mal nen schönes Dingen. ♦ Ohne River wär die Hand jetzt im Bad Beat Thread.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
10 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $14.05
UTG+1: $71.50
Hero: $138.05
MP1: $17.20
MP2: $38.01
MP3: $27.85
CO: $45.20
Button: $45
SB: $30.05
BB: $75.40

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+2 with 3♣ 3♥
2 folds, Hero calls, 4 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: T♥ 5♣ 3♦ ($2, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.5, Button calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 9♠ ($3, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.5, Button raises to $2, Hero calls.

River: 3♠ ($7, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button is all-in $42, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $91
Hero shows 3c 3h
Button doesn't show Ts Td

Nope, wieso? Er war doch mit TT die ganze Zeit vorn ... bis zum River.

Achja stimmt, hab ich wohl was durcheinander gewürfelt.
Vielleicht sollte ich nach 5 Std. Pokern mal ne Pause einlegen. ^^

PartyPoker 25,00/50,00 Limit Hold'em (10 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is BU with 3♣, 3♥
1 folds, UTG+1 calls, 1 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls, 1 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4,40 SB) 9♦, 3♠, 8♦ (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 raises, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 caps, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (8,20 BB) T♥ (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (11,20 BB) 3♦ (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 3-bets, Hero caps, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 13,28 BB.

Results in white below:

Hero shows [ 3c, 3h ]four of a kind, Threes.
MP1 doesn't show [ 8c, 8s ]a full house, Eights full of Threes.
Hero wins $10.10 from the main pot with four of a kind, Threes.

Leider war der Gewinn bald wieder weg. -> s. Bad Beat Thread!

Wihnachtsgeschenk!!! 24.12.2006

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♣, K♣.
UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) J♣, Q♣, 3♠ (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) K♥ (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, UTG raises, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (12.75 BB) T♣ (3 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 15.75 BB

Results in white below:
UTG has Qs Kd (two pair, kings and queens).
UTG+1 has 9c Js (straight, king high).
Hero has Ac Kc (straight flush, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 15.75 BB.

Original von RockaDN
Nice Hand ♦
Aber meine 48.5 BB hat noch keiner geschlagen....(bin aber auch zu faul den ganzen Thread durchzugehen und zu suchen)...
MP3 rockt

Hab mich heut mal zum Spaß an die regulären 0.05/0.1 Tische gesetzt, mein bis jetzt BB mäßig größter Pot.
Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.05/$0.1
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 7♠ 7♣
UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: 4♣ 5♥ 3♣ (14SB, 7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO caps, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: 6♠ (19BB, 6 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO raises, Button calls, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO caps, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: T♠ (43BB, 6 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO raises, Button calls, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO caps, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Results:
Final pot: 63BB
CO shows Ah As
Button shows 2d 8d
Hero shows 7s 7c
MP1 doesn't show Kh 6c
MP2 doesn't show Th Qh

Flop ist denke ich etwas overplayed, aber egal ♦

Edit: results hinzugefügt.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1990
CO: t4200
Button: t3240
Superheld: t2940
BB: t7630

Pre-flop: (5 players) Superheld is SB with A♣ A♥
UTG raises all-in t1990, CO calls t1990 (pot was t2290), Button folds, Superheld raises all-in t2840, BB folds, CO calls t950 (pot was t7020).

Flop: J♠ 9♣ K♦ (t6280, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t6170, Sidepot 1: t110)

Turn: K♠ (t6280, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t6170, Sidepot 1: t110)

River: A♦ (t6280, 1 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t6170, Sidepot 1: t110)

Results:
Final pot: t6280
UTG shows Jd 9d
CO shows Ts Qs
Superheld shows Ac Ah

Hab am Flop schon geschrien ^^ ♦ ♦ ♦ ♦

Original von Feano

Original von RockaDN
Nice Hand ♦
Aber meine 48.5 BB hat noch keiner geschlagen....(bin aber auch zu faul den ganzen Thread durchzugehen und zu suchen)...
MP3 rockt

Hab mich heut mal zum Spaß an die regulären 0.05/0.1 Tische gesetzt, mein bis jetzt BB mäßig größter Pot.
Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.05/$0.1
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 7♠ 7♣
UTG folds, Hero calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: 4♣ 5♥ 3♣ (14SB, 7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO caps, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: 6♠ (19BB, 6 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO raises, Button calls, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO caps, Button calls, SB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: T♠ (43BB, 6 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO raises, Button calls, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO caps, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Results:
Final pot: 63BB
CO shows Ah As
Button shows 2d 8d
Hero shows 7s 7c
MP1 doesn't show Kh 6c
MP2 doesn't show Th Qh

Flop ist denke ich etwas overplayed, aber egal ♦

Edit: results hinzugefügt.

Ich bin schockiert ♦
Krass! Ok...das muss ich irgendwann auch mal hinbekommen!

PartyPoker $0.05/$0.10 Limit Hold'em (9 handed) Recorded and converted with HandRecorder

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A♦, J♦
2 folds, UTG+2 raises, 1 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls, 1 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (9,00 SB) T♦, 7♣, Q♦ (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets, MP2 calls, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+2 3-bets, MP2 folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9,50 BB) K♦ (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (11,50 BB) 4♥ (2 players)
UTG+2 bets, Hero raises, UTG+2 3-bets, Hero caps, UTG+2 calls.

Final Pot: 19,50 BB.

Nach nicht ganz 1 Monat mein erster Royal Flush

PS: Turn habe ich nicht gecappt weil ich eigentlich den BB gern am River dabei gehabt hätte

Das nenn ich mal Upswing:
100 BB in einer Stunde bei 4-Tabling. Leider nur auf 5/10 Cent.

An einem der Tische waren es unglaubliche 75 BB. Unter anderem diese beiden Riesengewinne:

Party Poker 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 8♠, 8♣. UTG+1 posts a blind of $0.05.
1 fold, UTG+1 (poster) checks, 1 fold, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (10.40 SB) 4♦, 8♥, 9♠ (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 raises, MP3 calls, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (15.20 BB) 4♣ (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero caps, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (35.20 BB) 7♦ (5 players)
BB bets, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 40.20 BB

Results:
BB has 3s 9d (two pair, nines and fours).
MP2 has Jd Js (two pair, jacks and fours).
Hero has 8s 8c (full house, eights full of fours).
Outcome: Hero wins 40.20 BB.

Party Poker 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 7♠, 7♦. MP1 posts a blind of $0.05.
1 fold, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB checks

Flop: (7.40 SB) 7♥, A♠, T♦ (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, CO calls, Button calls, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 caps, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (13.70 BB) 4♣ (5 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, CO calls, Button calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 calls, MP2 caps, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

River: (33.70 BB) 3♣ (5 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 raises, CO calls, Button folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 folds, MP2 caps, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 46.70 BB

Results:
Hero has 7s 7d (three of a kind, sevens).
MP2 has Ac Tc (two pair, aces and tens).
CO has 9h Th (one pair, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 46.70 BB.

Und alle, die jetzt sagen, dass sind keine richtigen Goodbeats:
egal. Ich muss es einfach posten. Also spart euch die Antworten.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.05/$0.1
10 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (10 players) kriegskeks is CO with J♠ A♠
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, kriegskeks 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 caps, kriegskeks calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: 4♠ K♠ 5♣ (15.4SB, 3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets, kriegskeks raises, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: 8♠ (10.7BB, 3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP3 bets, kriegskeks raises, UTG+2 folds, MP3 3-bets, kriegskeks caps, MP3 calls.

River: 6♠ (18.7BB, 2 players)
MP3 checks, kriegskeks bets, MP3 calls.

Results:
Final pot: 20.7BB
kriegskeks shows [ Js, As ]a flush, Ace high.
c4rdm4n doesn't show [ Ac, Ah ]a pair of Aces.
kriegskeks wins $1.97 from the main pot with a flush, Ace high.

Mir war langweilig und ich gamble etwas auf FL rum. Minraisepoker ist manchmal sehr lustig. ♦

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $221.30
UTG+1: $73.30
CO: $44
Button: $196
SB: $477.20
Hero: $196

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K♥ K♣
4 folds, SB calls, Hero raises to $10, SB calls.

Flop: J♣ 8♣ J♥ ($20, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14, SB calls.

Turn: 8♦ ($48, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: K♦ ($48, 2 players)
SB bets $12, Hero raises to $48, SB raises to $214, Hero calls all-in $124.
Uncalled bets: $42 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $392
SB shows 8s Jd
Hero shows Kh Kc

Höhö ♦

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $150.35
kriegskeks: $73.75
CO: $90.16
Button: $73.35
SB: $47.70
BB: $70.65

Pre-flop: (6 players) kriegskeks is UTG+1 with A♣ 9♣
UTG raises to $1, kriegskeks calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB raises to $5, BB folds, UTG calls, kriegskeks calls, Button folds.

Flop: 9♦ 8♣ Q♣ ($16.5, 3 players)
SB bets $11.1, UTG calls, kriegskeks calls.

Turn: T♠ ($49.8, 3 players)
SB is all-in $31.6, UTG calls, kriegskeks calls.

River: 3♣ ($144.6, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $144.6)
UTG is all-in $102.65, kriegskeks calls all-in $26.05.
Uncalled bets: $76.6 returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: $196.7
UTG shows [ Jc, As ]a straight Eight to Queen.
kriegskeks shows [ Ac, 9c ]a flush, Ace high.
SB doesn't show [ Ad, Ah ]a pair of Aces.
UTG wins $76.60 from side pot #2 with a straight, Eight to Queen.
kriegskeks wins $52.10 from side pot #1 with a flush, Ace high.
kriegskeks wins $141.60 from the main pot with a flush, Ace high.

IN YOUR FACE! ♦

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $132.35
UTG+1: $125.90
CO: $101.55
Button: $68.30
SB: $97.90
BB: $140.15

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A♠ 9♠
Hero calls, UTG+1, folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB calls, BB (poster) checks.

Flop: A♣ Q♠ 9♣ ($5, 5 players)
SB checks, BB bets $3, Hero raises to $9, 3 folds, BB calls.

Turn: 6♦ ($23, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $22, BB calls.

River: 9♦ ($67, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero raises all-in $100.35, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: $267.7

Niceeee
ich hatte mich zwar mit dem Wissen, dass Villian ein Fisch war an den Tisch gesetzt aber, dass er hier mit A8 callt hätte ich nicht gedacht.

erster versuch auf NL100

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG with J♣ J♠
hero raises to $3, 2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB raises to $15, hero raises all-in $104, Button folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9♣ 8♠ 2♠ ($217.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $217.5)

Turn: 7♦ ($217.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $217.5)

River: A♠ ($217.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $217.5)

Results:
Final pot: $217.5
BB shows 6d 3d
hero shows Jc Js

der typ hat 10 mal am stück preflop auf 15-35$ geraist, ich betete zu gott für ein hohes PP, ich wurde erhört.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is UTG+1 with K♥ K♣
UTG folds, hero raises to $3, CO raises to $15, 3 folds, hero raises to $60, CO raises all-in $111.1, hero calls.

Flop: 6♣ Q♣ T♣ ($253.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $253.7)

Turn: K♦ ($253.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $253.7)

River: 7♦ ($253.7, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $253.7)

Results:
Final pot: $253.7
hero shows Kh Kc
CO doesn't show Ad As

nice one

Ach wie schön das sowas gerade beim Shot auf 10/20 passiert

PokerStars 10/20 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3♣, 4♣.
UTG calls, MP raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG 3-bets, MP calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 6♠, 2♣, 5♣ (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) 7♥ (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, Button calls, Hero raises, UTG calls, Button calls.

River: (18.25 BB) 6♣ (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, Button folds.

Final Pot: 20.25 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has 3c 4c (straight flush, six high).
UTG has Ah Ac (two pair, aces and sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins 20.25 BB.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
10 players
Converter

Stack sizes:

UTG+1: $23.75
MP2: $17.75
Hero: $69.25

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP3 with 2♦ 2♠
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls, 4 folds.

Flop: 6♣ 2♣ 7♥ ($2.50, 3 players)
UTG+1 bets $1, MP2 raises to $2, Hero raises to $4, UTG+1 raises to $5, MP2 calls 4$, Hero raises all-in $64.50, UTG+1 calls all-in $17, MP2 calls all-in $11.

Turn: 8♥ ($107.60, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $50.45, Sidepot 1: $11.65, Sidepot 2: $45.50)

River: 3♠ ($107.60, 0 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $50.45, Sidepot 1: $11.65, Sidepot 2: $45.50)

Results:
Final pot: $107.60
UTG+1 shows Ah Ac
MP2 shows As Ad
Hero shows 2d 2s

Als ich die Hände der Gegner sah musste ich nur lachen und dachte mir: "so kanns immer laufen ♦"

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ach so sollts immer sein. grad am ausblinden; es laufen nur noch 1 oder 2 tische und dann krieg ich an 1 tisch innerhalb von 4 händen AA, KK, QQ, jedes mal nen caller und nen guten bis perfekten flop
und wenn einer meckert dass des kein wirklicher good beat is mach ich sofort 3 usernews auf... für jede hand nen thread ^^