QTo 3bet spot on mono board

A higher flush is a small part of his range, because he hasn't bet one street.
I like the value bet on the river but I would make it about 3BB or 3.5 BB to get more calls from smaller flushes and possibly A-high.

Original von blacktr33
A higher flush is a small part of his range, because he hasn't bet one street.

True. But how much weak flushs are in his 3bet range? (I'd guess that pop tendency isnt't 3bet bluffing very wide on 15s)

I don't think there's a lot of value in a bet really.

+ He might know that we are never bluffing here.

Original von blacktr33
A higher flush is a small part of his range, because he hasn't bet one street.

Do you think they are beting FD one street? I think they are c/shoving those hands

On the river I think their c/calling range doesn´t change enough by the sizing and my 5bb value bet have to work not so often as like as 3bb bet.

imo nh.

Original von cHaiNSawMasSacRe

I don't think there's a lot of value in a bet really.

+ He might know that we are never bluffing here.

Edit: ok I get you now - you're saying we don't have a value-bet with Td but also that he won't fold very much. So essentially that he has Qd or Jd a lot when he plays like this?

I think I do disagree about the not bluffing - because I think it's likely we can indeed fold out some A-high and Q-high. But then yea - it's unlikely Td will be called by worse often enough to make it a good bet.

I'm fairly convinced though that it's an ok bet in a vacuum when the possibility of an A-high hero-call exists (don't think it does though).

Hm, Teddy for sure is right if we ask "is there enough worse calling our bet to make it profitable". And I am also aware of this concept.

So maybe my plan is not the best, but Im betting cause I think we have the best hand most of the time. I guess Q is at least betting one street. So yeah, theres a possibility hes not betting J . Dont know the chances he is and he isnt, but I guess he would bet sometimes.

So imo hes having a worse hand more often than not, so thats why I bet. I give him the chance to call with worse. But if hes to less calling with worse (50%?), than maybe I should also follow the known concept. Atm my personal approach is just to bet if I think I have the best hand most of the time. Maybe I should stop this again.

But cause its also a bluff spot for us, we could Vbet this thin imo.