Mexico y el pago de impuestos de poker online

Vale mi amigo creo que el 28% es algo normalito, en USA si tu ganas mas de 1000 dlls en algun premio en algun casino tengo entendido que te retienen el 30% de impuestos

De paso te paso lo que la situacion del campeon de la WSOP del 2008

Peter Eastgate to Pay $6.6 Million in Danish Taxes

Friday, December 5th, 2008

While Peter Eastgate won the 2008 WSOP Main Event in November, scoring a whopping $9.1 million win, he might as well have come in last. The tax laws in Denmark require that on the first $4 million of a gambling win, 45% must go to Danish income taxes. And any additional winnings on top of that ($5.1 million in Eastgate’s case) are taxed at the rate of 75%.

The main reason that Danish taxes are so high is because of the socialistic government of Denmark’s citizens live under. They receive completely free health care and college tuition scholarships that pay every cent of their education, but all of this comes with a big price tag when it comes to taxes. The funding for these benefits comes straight from high and repressive taxes. In Eastgate’s case, his $9.1 million win, after taxes, will come out to less than $2.5 million.

Eastgate did attempt to relocate his residence to London, England, in hopes of evading the high taxes, where the taxes aren’t as bad. British taxes would have only taken 40% of his winnings, in which he would have been able to keep $5.5 million, but apparently he failed to establish residency in London during the 117-day intermission between July when he won the final table seat and the November Main Event.

One idea recommended to Eastgate is a change of address to Monaco, where Sir Roger Moore and Ringo Star of the Beatles now reside. The income tax in Monaco is zilch and the country is the smallest in the world, but the most densely populated, and it is clear why. They do have the thriving capital city of Monte Carlo there, where Eastgate could spend more of his money at the poker tables.

Saludos

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Vale mi amigo creo que el 28% es algo normalito, en USA si tu ganas mas de 1000 dlls en algun premio en algun casino tengo entendido que te retienen el 30% de impuestos

De paso te paso lo que la situacion del campeon de la WSOP del 2008

Peter Eastgate to Pay $6.6 Million in Danish Taxes

Friday, December 5th, 2008

While Peter Eastgate won the 2008 WSOP Main Event in November, scoring a whopping $9.1 million win, he might as well have come in last. The tax laws in Denmark require that on the first $4 million of a gambling win, 45% must go to Danish income taxes. And any additional winnings on top of that ($5.1 million in Eastgate’s case) are taxed at the rate of 75%.

The main reason that Danish taxes are so high is because of the socialistic government of Denmark’s citizens live under. They receive completely free health care and college tuition scholarships that pay every cent of their education, but all of this comes with a big price tag when it comes to taxes. The funding for these benefits comes straight from high and repressive taxes. In Eastgate’s case, his $9.1 million win, after taxes, will come out to less than $2.5 million.

Eastgate did attempt to relocate his residence to London, England, in hopes of evading the high taxes, where the taxes aren’t as bad. British taxes would have only taken 40% of his winnings, in which he would have been able to keep $5.5 million, but apparently he failed to establish residency in London during the 117-day intermission between July when he won the final table seat and the November Main Event.

One idea recommended to Eastgate is a change of address to Monaco, where Sir Roger Moore and Ringo Star of the Beatles now reside. The income tax in Monaco is zilch and the country is the smallest in the world, but the most densely populated, and it is clear why. They do have the thriving capital city of Monte Carlo there, where Eastgate could spend more of his money at the poker tables.

Saludos

hey ragfelix sera q puedes traducir un resumen de lo q le paso a peter? plx. esq me da curiosidad ver como es eso aya en EEUU sobre los impuestos a ganadores de la WSOP!

SAludos!

En resumen lo que le paso a nuestro compa Pete es que el gano 9.1 mill dol pero su pais de residencia (dinamarca) tiene una de las tasas de impuestos mas alta en el planeta.

Por lo que el trato o cambio su pais de residencia tratando de ahorrarse unos cuantos millones de dolares.

Aui hayotro link muy interesante de lo que sucedio en el pago de impuestos a los finalistas de la WSOP del 2008

Russ Fox, and Enrolled Accountant who works for Clayton Financial and Tax of Irvine, Calif., crunched the tax numbers for all the final table participants, according to where they are from. The following is his work, which could be found at his blog, which covers all sorts of tax issues at www.taxabletalk.com.

The following figures assume that the players will pay exactly what the tax code in their countries and regions call for. The figures could change drastically, depending on the player’s accountants, the success of challenges, and other factors.

By far, the person losing the most through taxes is the winner of the main event, Peter Eastgate. Denmark puts a severe tax burden on those who win big at casinos. For casino wins, Danes owe their government 45 percent on the first 4 million Danish Kroners won and that figure jumps to around 75 percent on anything above that. A $1 is worth about 5.8 Kroners, meaning Eastgate's $9.1 million first-place prize falls easily into the higher rate.

Assuming Eastgate is subject to Danish taxation laws, he is looking at a tax bill of around $6.6 million. But Eastgate recently moved to London and because of that, may not owe a penny. The UK doesn't tax poker winnings. But because Eastgate just made the move to London, Denmark's tax agency, called SKAT, will claim that he moved to avoid the incredibly high tax rate. Fox predicts that somewhere down the line, unless Eastgate simply ups and pays Denmark, both parties will wind up facing an arbitrator in a tax hearing to figure out how much the 22-year-old Dane owes.

If Denmark winds up with Eastgate’s tax dollars, Eastgate will get to keep only $2,491,871 of the $9.1 million paid to first.

Second-place WSOP finisher Ivan Demidov won $5.8 million, and according to Fox (and thanks to a Russian flat tax rate of 13 percent), he gets off fairly cheap with a $755,247 tax bill.

Dennis Phillips, of Illinois, finished third and won $4.5 million. He will owe about $1.6 million to the IRS and $135,000 to the Illinois Department of Revenue.

Another American, Ylon Schwartz of Brooklyn, finished fourth and he won $3.7 million. According to Fox, since he is a professional gambler, he’ll owe self-employment taxes on his winnings, as well as state and New York City income tax. He’ll probably owe $1.39 million to the IRS and $387,966 to NYC.

Two Canadians then finished fifth and sixth: Scott Montgomery of Perth, Ontario and Darus Suharto of Toronto. The tax treaty between the U.S. and Canada calls for 30 percent of the prize money to be withheld by the IRS.

That puts Montgomery’s IRS bill at $929,000 (for winning $3,096,768) and Suharto’s at $725,569 (for winning $2,418,562). Montgomery will owe about $491,000 more to his provincial government.

Finishing sixth and seventh were two Californians. They not only will get a bill from the IRS, but also from California’s tax agency, the Franchise Tax Board (FTB). David Rheem earned about $1.7 million for his seventh-place finish and will owe about $651,262 to the IRS and $170,302 to the FTB.

Kelly Kim finished in eighth place and owes about $470,995 to the IRS and $121,074 to the FTB.

Craig Marquis took a rotten beat to be eliminated first, and earned $900,670, of which $328,911 will go to the IRS.

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bah yo mejor me voy a panama o gibraltar algo asi.

por eso la mayoria viven ahi mismo en las vegas

tendremos ke llevarnos a nuestras familias paya

este tema es muy interesante, ahora una pregunta me imagino que pasando los $3000us al mes se estaria uno metiendo en estos rollos de los impuestos o en necesario apartir de que cantidad, por ejemplo $1000us? seria lo mismo

Hola es mi primera participanciòn ene el foro, tengo entendido que en la ley tributaria mexicana no existe regulación directa, o por interpretación o cualesquier otro tipo, hace como un año leí que estaban viendo en cámara de diputados dicho tema, anda nada mas fue tocado dentro de otros temas de recaudación tributaria por medios electrónicos, como es un "nuevo" fenómeno social que la la ley no regula, es decir que no existe ninguna ley o norma, el código fiscal ni la menciona,aparte como tus ingresos se están generando en ele lugar donde se encuentran los servidores y el impuesto lo pagan las salas. Si los servidores estuvieran en México y la legislación mexicana las regulara de forma especifica ahí si no habría para donde hacerle, así que por lo pronto no creo que exista problema, si te asesoras que sea con un abogado fiscalista con reputación y veras que tengo razón, el otro día le pregunte a mi maestro de derecho fiscal y eso fue lo que me dijo.

PD.- en algunos años mas se oirá de este tema mas, pasara lo que en España(pronto), Francia,Italia, , que el estado se dará cuenta de las cantidades de dinero que se mueven en ele poker en linea y ahí comenzara. asesórate con un ABOGADO FISCALISTA y no con un CONTADOR, cada uno tiene sus funciones especificas y créeme que este tema no es de un contador sino de un abogado. Ten cuidado conque o te r sacan dinero. mas o menos se del tema porque hice mis practicas en mis practicas profecionales en cobros coactivos a contribuyentes.=) saludos.

Excelente explicacion rag, gracias

Hola ragfelix, hace mucho que hablaron sobre este tema de tributar impuestos, no se si aun usas aquí tu cuenta, me gustaría preguntarte mas acerca de esto, no se si tengas tiempo hehe, me ayudarías mucho