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[FR] QQ vs 3b

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AriGold1980
Joined: 22.05.2010

Pacific, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 10 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

CO: $100 (100 bb)
BTN: $104.09 (104.1 bb)
SB: $39 (39 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
UTG+1: $61.95 (62 bb)
UTG+2: $109.48 (109.5 bb)
MP1: $100 (100 bb)
MP2: $98 (98 bb)
Hero (MP3): $100 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q Q
UTG posts BB OOP, UTG checks, UTG+1 raises to $4, UTG+2 raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $31.87, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $27.87, UTG+2 raises to $109.48 and is all-in, Hero calls $68.13 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $29.58

Flop: ($263.95) 8 2 J (3 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($263.95) 8 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($263.95) J (3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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$263.95 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: 8 2 J 8 J
UTG+1 showed 9 K and lost (-$61.45 net)
UTG+2 showed A A and won $259.95 ($159.95 net)
Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$100 net)

UTG+1 is a fish 71/24/24 in 180h
UTG+2 is reg 18/13/5 in 1,6k

Is cold 4b here the best move knowing that the fish will call very light ?


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Hi.

I think the 4bet is a clear mistake.
1) We want the fish to come along so we should cold-call.
2) Not sure how wide the reg is 3-betting the fish for thin value. But he is not going to give you too much action since I don't expect you to 4bet him light in these positions.

So just call, and I don't expect UTG+2 to get too out of line vs you. I would also flat my KK and AA here to trap the fish. You don't need to worry about having perceived capped ranges here.

Thanks.


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AriGold1980 Topic starter
AriGold1980
Joined: 22.05.2010

Even if I'm expecting the fish to call the 4b very light ? He is a very big fish that doesn't like to fold preflop .


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Just because he opens wide doesnt mean he calls wide ranges vs 4bets. I think coming to this conclusion purely based on his vpip and pfr is being very optimistic.


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