NL200 : JJ overpair

_Anonymous_

06.07.2008, 14:13 0

Known players:
[tg]Hero$319.40:///////;BU$320.12:///////;MP3$200.00:///////;SB$200.00:///////;CO$205.45:///////;MP2$452.95:///////;[/tg]
1/2 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.53 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with J♠, J♥
2 folds, CO raises to $8.00, 2 folds, Hero raises to $25.00, CO calls $17.00.

Flop: ($51.00) 6♣, 9♦, 7♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $28.00, CO raises to $92.00, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $171.00

I know this looks pretty standard, but I still don't know whether this is regular NL200 overaggression or really a better hand.

11 replies

swissmoumout

Joined: 24.02.2007

Posts: 2,976

06.07.2008, 15:02 0

against an aggressive opponent I'd shove the flop. You'll get called by TT, JJ (he'll almost always 4-bet QQ+ preflop) and 88, plus sets, and he'll occasionally bluff-raise the flop with air

_Anonymous_

06.07.2008, 17:30 0

I think you have to shove

_Anonymous_

09.07.2008, 06:40 0

Jup i agree, think u will see 89 here sometimes 2.

Cojack123

Joined: 28.08.2006

Posts: 410

10.07.2008, 16:47 0

Hi

i fold only with reads i call
some people love to shove overcards in this spot

_Anonymous_ Topic starter

10.07.2008, 17:00 0

Originally posted by Cojack123
Hi

i fold only with reads i call
some people love to shove overcards in this spot

Is that :
I fold, only with reads I call
or
I fold only with read, I call

Cojack123

Joined: 28.08.2006

Posts: 410

10.07.2008, 20:21 0

i see the grammar was confusing.

But i prefer folding if i dont have guesses.

Stats and the general gameflow of the site and
limit help a lot to decide what the default play should be.

A 21/17 guy i know playing higher limits or if you are
at a table with a videomaking cardrunners guy than its an easy push.

Despite if someone is in general trappy and does not valuebet thin and
is a bad/mediocre player or does not 3 bet in his game a fold is better

_Anonymous_

10.07.2008, 20:26 0

tbh I think its bad to fold an overpair to an unknown on a drawy flop. You'll see pair + sd or even total air so often there.

lol at cardrunners read ♦

_Anonymous_

13.07.2008, 21:36 0

I like a fold with no reads.

_Anonymous_

15.07.2008, 07:30 0

Problem here is that you have only JJ.
I believe that he can probably bet/call pf with QQ-AA
and second thing is his betsize. Why to make 92$ re-raise if 60$ has the same effect.

_Anonymous_

19.07.2008, 12:38 0

Originally posted by Kaitz20
Problem here is that you have only JJ.
I believe that he can probably bet/call pf with QQ-AA
and second thing is his betsize. Why to make 92$ re-raise if 60$ has the same effect.

Minraise has the same effect as a 3x raise? I disagree.

_Anonymous_

20.07.2008, 14:04 0

Originally posted by sw0ldo

Originally posted by Kaitz20
Problem here is that you have only JJ.
I believe that he can probably bet/call pf with QQ-AA
and second thing is his betsize. Why to make 92$ re-raise if 60$ has the same effect.

Minraise has the same effect as a 3x raise? I disagree.

Yes, you're right. Min-raise could induce bluffshoves, which 3x raise would never do. But bluff-raises are mostly not so big.

[Closed] NL200 : JJ overpair